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Posted On: 2017-08-22 15:31:35
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What do you think of Trump speech about Afghanistan War?


Donald Trump’s speech about Afghanistan promises to intensify US involvement in Afghanistan. This represents a complete u-turn for the man who backed troop withdrawal and blasted
his White House predecessors for futile missions that were a “complete waste.”

Trump 2013
"We should have a speedy withdrawal. Why should we keep wasting our money -- rebuild the U.S.!"

But now he has given a speech which is nearly identical to what Obama gave about Afghanistan in 2012 or Hillary Clinton was giving. Namely to summarize:
"If we leave Afghanistan hastily that will embolden the Terrorist.."
Since when leaving a War after 16 Years of having waged it is "leaving hastily"?
And then he said: "We are going to now wage the Afghan War to Win it..."
So are you saying that last 16 Years we were waging the Afghan War to loose it?
And why is China that borders Afghanistan, repeat borders Afghanistan, sees no threat from Terrorist and has had ZERO troops in Afghanistan and ZERO Dollar Spent to defend against these "horrific Terrorists" and instead spent the same Trillions on building High Speed Trains, Renewable Energy, etc.. What do you think?

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There was so much garbage and lies and non-sense in Trump speech about Afghanistan War to try to address each would be a waste of my time, since any intelligent, aka non- White Trash White Supremacist, knows by now that Trump is a lying sociopath and that all he cares about is the MIC, Wall Street & Israel. Beside people below have taken a good crack at these already. I would just like to point out the amazingly bizarre rubbish that Trump said about India, "the Largest Democracy in the World" should help us defeat this enemy. Really India! Indians are such wooose that a Country of 1.2-Billion People won 1 Bronze Medal in last Olympic! Such woose that India has never ever even qualified to play in any major sporting event such as World Cup. etc. And India is as far as you can go from real Democracy.
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3 months 2 weeks ago
WT, very well said. My only question is why aren't American People out on the street by the Millions asking for an END to these non-Stop Wars by these Repugs and Democrats which obviously controlled by the Military Industrial Complex.
What is wrong with American People!
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3 months 4 days ago
Regal,

I'm afraid you give the American people more credit than we deserve. Not since the antiwar movement or civil rights movement of the 60s, have Americans been able to get together and be united about anything. The only exception might be fighting against the fascism of Donald Trump and his followers. Unfortunately, much of that has resulted in the type of violence it only serves to create divisions among people; the last thing we need.


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What do you think of Trump speech about Afghanistan War?
Just a repeat of the reasons that Obama and Bush gave for carrying out the Afghan War! A War that is a total waste of our Money and lives, which facts Trump the civilians had stated on many occasions. But in proofing what a real sociopath he is, just as all his other statements he either has flipped flopped on them or they were total lies. So I guess we have gone from "Make America Great" to "Make Afghanistan Great" or more like "Bomb Afghanistan into further dust while China takes the same Trillions that Obama_Trump waste on War after War and invests them in their modern infrastructure & transportation, etc. while infrastructure transportation in USA are 1950 era embarrassingly decrepit.
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3 months 2 weeks ago
So very True. You could have taken Obama's face from 2012 speech he gave at West Point and put it on Trump face last night. And the same lies were pouring out of both or same face. Specially this gem of a BS:
"If we leave Afghanistan hastily that will embolden the Terrorist.."
When the fact is staying at a poor Islamic Country and Bombing its People into dead people will create Terrorist, as per the fact that US War on Iraq created ISIS. But of course that is what they really want it seems.
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Yes, to the War Mongers and Hate Mongers waging War on a dirt poor Country such as Afghanistan, even after 16 Years of such War is not enough. After all they are making so many Billions from these wasteful War, why bother with the Truth.
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You have the right idea. The only people that benefit from any war is the war profiteers (a.k.a. arms manufacturers, defense contractors). We waste so much money in foreign countries then we neglect our own people here at home.

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To follow up on your China part: you want to see what a Fear Mongering Hate Mongering SCAM this never Ending Afghanistan War is on US by the Wall Street based MIC right-wing Media? Ask this question:

Why is China the 2nd largest economy in the World, repeat the 2nd largest economy in the World, that borders Afghanistan, repeat borders Afghanistan, sees no threat from Terrorist in Afghanistan and hence has had ZERO troops in Afghanistan and spent ZERO Dollar to fight these "horrific Terrorists" in Afghanistan?

In this Question, set aside its Answer, you have all the Fear Mongering SCAM that right-wing Media are playing on US.
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Because the actual threat from these rag tag bunch of people in Afghanistan, aka Taliban dressed in Pajamas, with ZERO Fighter Jets, ZERO Navy, ZERO Tanks, etc. ZERO Weapons is actually ZERO.
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Yes, how in Gods name is Taliban going to be a threat to USA when it has ZERO Ships, ZERO Air craft, ZERO Submarines, etc. ZERO real Weapons. I guess the Taliban or the Muslims going to fire a Bolt of Lightning out of their asses at us :)
And this is why Republicans and Democrats are so frightened by them. Or they just think right-wing Wall Street Media which is entire US Media will sell any non-sense to American People.
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2 months 3 weeks ago
Reporter,

The North Vietnamese had ZERO ships, except for a few fishing boats. Only about 25-28 secondhand Migs at their disposal at any one time, and they handed the United States our asses, during the Vietnam War. One can really do a lot with very little, if you are determined to fight off an enemy; something which unfortunately the United States has chosen to make itself into to just about everyone.

The Democrats and Republicans are less frightened by them that they are losing their backers

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3 months 2 weeks ago

There was a coup in Washington, and it happened in November 22. 1963. Time to admit to this obvious fact. As long as the military (Industrial Complex) is in control, there is going to be constant warfare. If there are no enemies to fight they will be invented, such as ISIS which of course is the result of the Iraq War which was a War based on total lies. So Trump, Obama, same old same old lies to sell Wars after Wars.
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3 months 2 weeks ago
That is an interesting view of things. Not sure totally agree with the literal definition of a " coup in Washington". But maybe same in Wall Street.
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3 months 4 days ago
Lux Report,

DisWay was referring to the Kennedy assassination in 1963, which was probably perpetrated by the CIA. Describing this incident as a coup is quite accurate, because after that incident, we never had a president who was a real freethinker, like John F. Kennedy.

Ever since that time, no American president has been free of the military-industrial complex. This entity has controlled every one of them. Some more than others.

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I hate to believe this is True. That is Kennedy was assassinated by the military-industrial complex. Because then there is little hope for US, for real Change, for stopping the War after War by MIC & Wall Street Complex. But the more I see, the more I am afraid this to be the Truth :(

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Its because he is not in control. He is just a puppet of MIC and AIPAC, who want Perpetual Wars. And making American People miserable from these Wars and making more Trillions for Wall Street 0.1%
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Exactly. He would not have become Prez if he had not pandered to AIPAC. Look what happned to Ron Paul in 2012.

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To the wall that Mexico is not going to pay for, to China not being labeled a currency manipulator, to US spending on NATO rather than being eliminated actually being increased, to no $1-Trillion investment on rebuilding nation’s highways, railroads and airports, President Donald Trump can now add the Afghanistan war still not ending.

What a FRAUD this guy is. But in fact he is just as big as a fraud as Obama. That is both are controlled by same Wall Street Military Industrial Cabal. Only question is when are American people going to wake up this Mega SCAM on US!
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Yes, indeed what a fraud. He has broken just above everyone of his Campaign promises.
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It is because Trump is NOT running the show, The AIPAK, And the Arms Industry is!!!
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2 months 3 weeks ago
DisWay,

What you say is very true. However, we must also not forget that Donald Trump has made a fortune filing for bankruptcy. The only type of bankruptcy that he did not file for his bankruptcy of morals and ethics. He is not capable of running any other show than a performance in bankruptcy court.

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