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Posted On: 2017-08-22 15:31:35
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What do you think of Trump speech about Afghanistan War?


Donald Trumpโ€™s speech about Afghanistan promises to intensify US involvement in Afghanistan. This represents a complete u-turn for the man who backed troop withdrawal and blasted
his White House predecessors for futile missions that were a โ€œcomplete waste.โ€

Trump 2013
"We should have a speedy withdrawal. Why should we keep wasting our money -- rebuild the U.S.!"

But now he has given a speech which is nearly identical to what Obama gave about Afghanistan in 2012 or Hillary Clinton was giving. Namely to summarize:
"If we leave Afghanistan hastily that will embolden the Terrorist.."
Since when leaving a War after 16 Years of having waged it is "leaving hastily"?
And then he said: "We are going to now wage the Afghan War to Win it..."
So are you saying that last 16 Years we were waging the Afghan War to loose it?
And why is China that borders Afghanistan, repeat borders Afghanistan, sees no threat from Terrorist and has had ZERO troops in Afghanistan and ZERO Dollar Spent to defend against these "horrific Terrorists" and instead spent the same Trillions on building High Speed Trains, Renewable Energy, etc.. What do you think?

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8 months 4 weeks ago

Election of Trump and his promise to wage even more Wars than Bush and Obama with their 7 Wars and 1-Million+ they Killed and $6-Trillion of our Money they wasted, is a reminder that USA is not a Nation but an Abomination. That is a Nation controlled by Military Industrial Complex. I mean just look at our Northern neighbor Canada, it has Zero troops in Afghanistan, it is bombing Zero Muslim Countries, it has Government run Socialized Healthcare, yet this "American Psycho" Trump was elected who is promising even more Wars than Bush and Obama, such as threatening North Korea with Nuclear War and Killing Millions, and calls the 16 Years Afghanistan War to be too short a War which is same as the Psycho saying if we leave Afghanistan now that would be a "Hasty"! Really sick :(
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8 months 4 weeks ago
"USA is not a Nation but an Abomination."
I am afraid you have hit the nail on the head. But question is how is this possible? How did we become a Country where Bush wages War on 2 Countries, Obama runs on "I am going to change the War Mongering mentality" and then wages War on 3 MORE Countries and then this "True Psycho" Trump is elected who promises even MORE Wars! Why are American People not on the street and asking why are we in constant War and Canada in constant Peace?
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8 months 3 weeks ago
We came such as Country by We the People getting our News from a right-wing lying Media and by not having real consciousness.
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8 months 4 weeks ago

I think that Donald Trump's speech typifies the mentality of the average American politician; lots of words, no meaning. Hasn't anyone, most of all politicians, got a clue that maybe we were meant to win this war? Does anyone actually "win" a war?

China probably doesn't get involved because they figure that the United States will do all of the dirty work and heavy lifting in this situation. They are correct. The United States puts itself in the position where we always get screwed. It's almost like we are begging for it.

The United States needs to wake up and realize that we are not the cops of the world, even though big business always makes money during a war. We need to find other solutions to problems other than killing people in foreign nations. It's time we started paying attention to what's happening here at home, and let other countries sort out their problems.
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8 months 4 weeks ago
Wheeler61, very well said. My only question is why aren't American People out on the street by the Millions asking for an END to these non-Stop Wars by these Repugs and Democrats which obviously controlled by the Military Industrial Complex. I mean can you imagine if the Prime Minister of Canada would say lets invade Afghanistan and build a Wall between US and Canada. They would lock him up in an insane Asylum which is where this Psycho Trump belongs at.
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8 months 4 weeks ago
Wheeler61, Yes you can actually Win a War, if you are fighting a real Nation with an Army, Navy, Air Force, etc.. But NO You cannot win an imaginary made up War by the wall Street Military Industrial Complex, which is Afghanistan War, War on ISIS, etc. when the enemy are the People of that Nation and they have NO Army, NO Navy, NO Air Force, etc.
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8 months 2 weeks ago
Lux_Report,

I politely disagree. No one ever wins the war, because there will always be casualties who don't deserve to die. This is the case no matter if you are fighting a nation, or a bunch of guerrillas out in a jungle or desert. Some innocent person will always pay the ultimate price of giving up the life for some so-called "cause" that really doesn't mean a damn thing in the long run.
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There was so much garbage and lies and non-sense in Trump speech about Afghanistan War to try to address each would be a waste of my time, since any intelligent, aka non- White Trash White Supremacist, knows by now that Trump is a lying sociopath and that all he cares about is the MIC, Wall Street & Israel. Beside people below have taken a good crack at these already. I would just like to point out the amazingly bizarre rubbish that Trump said about India, "the Largest Democracy in the World" should help us defeat this enemy. Really India! Indians are such wooose that a Country of 1.2-Billion People won 1 Bronze Medal in last Olympic! Such woose that India has never ever even qualified to play in any major sporting event such as World Cup. etc. And India is as far as you can go from real Democracy.
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8 months 4 weeks ago
WT, very well said. My only question is why aren't American People out on the street by the Millions asking for an END to these non-Stop Wars by these Repugs and Democrats which obviously controlled by the Military Industrial Complex.
What is wrong with American People!
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8 months 2 weeks ago
Regal,

I'm afraid you give the American people more credit than we deserve. Not since the antiwar movement or civil rights movement of the 60s, have Americans been able to get together and be united about anything. The only exception might be fighting against the fascism of Donald Trump and his followers. Unfortunately, much of that has resulted in the type of violence it only serves to create divisions among people; the last thing we need.

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8 months 4 weeks ago

What do you think of Trump speech about Afghanistan War?
Just a repeat of the reasons that Obama and Bush gave for carrying out the Afghan War! A War that is a total waste of our Money and lives, which facts Trump the civilians had stated on many occasions. But in proofing what a real sociopath he is, just as all his other statements he either has flipped flopped on them or they were total lies. So I guess we have gone from "Make America Great" to "Make Afghanistan Great" or more like "Bomb Afghanistan into further dust while China takes the same Trillions that Obama_Trump waste on War after War and invests them in their modern infrastructure & transportation, etc. while infrastructure transportation in USA are 1950 era embarrassingly decrepit.
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8 months 4 weeks ago
So very True. You could have taken Obama's face from 2012 speech he gave at West Point and put it on Trump face last night. And the same lies were pouring out of both or same face. Specially this gem of a BS:
"If we leave Afghanistan hastily that will embolden the Terrorist.."
When the fact is staying at a poor Islamic Country and Bombing its People into dead people will create Terrorist, as per the fact that US War on Iraq created ISIS. But of course that is what they really want it seems.
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Yes, to the War Mongers and Hate Mongers waging War on a dirt poor Country such as Afghanistan, even after 16 Years of such War is not enough. After all they are making so many Billions from these wasteful War, why bother with the Truth.
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8 months 4 weeks ago
You have the right idea. The only people that benefit from any war is the war profiteers (a.k.a. arms manufacturers, defense contractors). We waste so much money in foreign countries then we neglect our own people here at home.
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8 months 4 weeks ago

To follow up on your China part: you want to see what a Fear Mongering Hate Mongering SCAM this never Ending Afghanistan War is on US by the Wall Street based MIC right-wing Media? Ask this question:

Why is China the 2nd largest economy in the World, repeat the 2nd largest economy in the World, that borders Afghanistan, repeat borders Afghanistan, sees no threat from Terrorist in Afghanistan and hence has had ZERO troops in Afghanistan and spent ZERO Dollar to fight these "horrific Terrorists" in Afghanistan?

In this Question, set aside its Answer, you have all the Fear Mongering SCAM that right-wing Media are playing on US.
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8 months 4 weeks ago
Because the actual threat from these rag tag bunch of people in Afghanistan, aka Taliban dressed in Pajamas, with ZERO Fighter Jets, ZERO Navy, ZERO Tanks, etc. ZERO Weapons is actually ZERO.
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8 months 4 weeks ago
Yes, how in Gods name is Taliban going to be a threat to USA when it has ZERO Ships, ZERO Air craft, ZERO Submarines, etc. ZERO real Weapons. I guess the Taliban or the Muslims going to fire a Bolt of Lightning out of their asses at us :)
And this is why Republicans and Democrats are so frightened by them. Or they just think right-wing Wall Street Media which is entire US Media will sell any non-sense to American People.
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8 months 6 days ago
Reporter,

The North Vietnamese had ZERO ships, except for a few fishing boats. Only about 25-28 secondhand Migs at their disposal at any one time, and they handed the United States our asses, during the Vietnam War. One can really do a lot with very little, if you are determined to fight off an enemy; something which unfortunately the United States has chosen to make itself into to just about everyone.

The Democrats and Republicans are less frightened by them that they are losing their backers
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