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Did GOD Have a Beginning?

To the question “Did GOD have a beginning?” the scientist, if so incline, will more than likely say yes, absolutely, because all things present has a start from some place in time. But the more spiritual, Bible driven, will quote scriptures that point to Him having no beginning, thus causing many whose worship is in science to consider we who believe in GOD and scriptures, are among the more ignorant. Even knowing there are multiple scriptures to indicate GOD has no beginning we can definitively point to, I believe GOD did have a beginning, and it's the Bible that proves it. You see, it is my belief that all scriptures that points to GOD not having a beginning, are scripture that serve one primary purpose – to make us aware that there is no reason for us to concern ourselves for there is no definitive answer to be found. It's just not important for us to know! So many scriptures. Form Genesis to Exodus, Psalms to Proverbs, 1 Timothy backwards to Deuteronomy - so many scriptures to consider, yet, all indicating to me one primary thing, it's not important for me to know!

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Hello Everyone, and Peace to you and Yours! Sometimes we tend to take for granted of what “with GOD all things are possible” truly means. From time to time, we allow ourselves to accept only those scriptures that appear obvious and definitive. Like John 1, Hebrews 7:3, and/or other scriptures like Revelation 21:6. We tend not to accept the reality that GOD'S beginning was unlike any other beginning, for in the original inception there was no mother or father.

There was no definitive time nor any beginning which required creation. Yet, despite the common sense GOD has privileged us with exercising, we slip away from the reasoning that is not of GOD. We fail to understand that GOD did have a beginning.. and that beginning is GOD! In science, nothing can exist without a beginning. Part of the reasoning ability GOD has afforded mankind. But, to most believers, the scriptural obvious, remains the only absolute. GOD is the Alpha and Omega.
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And as the Alpha and Omega, He reserves the right to have a beginning unlike referred to in science and joining with time. Therefore to me, GOD becomes that inexplicable beginning, requiring only our understanding that He exists by means of an un-created beginning!
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@Okinawa1985, I admire your unconventional approach but you should try to understand that the word beginning is a word that denotes time and motion. God cannot have a beginning because having one means that God started at a certain point, that God was previously somewhere that he isn't right now or that God was previously something that He isn't right now (e.g you were once a baby but you are not one now). Note that God is omnipresent i.e everywhere right now and forever more.
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When athletes race, they begin the race at a certain point and in order to complete (end) it, they have to move from that point to a different point in space time. But unlike the competing athletes, God is at both the beginning and the end right now (He is also at all points in the race). He doesn't need to move in space to complete the race because He not only fills but also transcends the inter-spaces of the race. In order to study new material,students have to begin studying at a certain..
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time and end at a different time. But unlike students, It doesn't take time for God to know new things because God knows everything that there is to know already. In God, there is nothing old or new. Everything is always the same. God is the fullness in which we live, move and have our beings (Acts 17:28) Notice the word move. We are the ones moving, moving in God. Movement denotes space (we move in space) and space denotes time because it takes time to cover space.
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...i.e it takes time to move from one place to another place. But God is forever still (i.e eternal and unchanging) and that is why He can access all points in and beyond space-time right now. So God "doesn't" have a beginning (created or uncreated). God is and will forever be, unchanging and eternal. But we have a beginning because we are the ones who moving i.e evolving, learning, experiencing.
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In simple terms, take God as the space in the race in my example and we as the athletes that move in that space. We experience the race as time but to God, there is no time because He is the whole race course right now. The whole universe is contained in God (Acts 17:28) and because it is contained in God, all points in it are not only accessible to God but He also transcends them. The same way the can of coke transcends the liquid coke that is contained within it
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BERRINTON, absolutely clear and defined by your understanding. And it is with that clarity that I believe that when GOD came to exist HE began to exist as part of the unknown time frame.. that part of time un controlling of GOD and void to our understanding. You see, in my mind, GOD exists when HE began to exist, and because HE is GOD, such time becomes irrelevant to our finite minds. BERRINTON, my brother, I believe there are three dimensions of time.. GOD'S which is the inexplicable..
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Cont'd>> The Angels and Adam and Eve which is Direct Creation in time.. and Indirect Creation which represents us. I can't fully explain why I believe such, but I do.
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Okinawa1985, Your claim "I believe that when GOD came to exist HE began to exist as part of the unknown time frame.. that part of time un controlling of GOD and void to our understanding. " denotes that God has a beginning (even though we don't understand it) and therefore denotes that God is not eternal and uncreated. It also implies that God existed at a time that is not our time and therefore means that God is Himself subject to change and is therefore not eternal/still i.e He moves.
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So how do you reconcile the fact that GOD (in our time) is eternal all knowing and unchanging with your claim that He began to exist (according to you in His time which is part of an unknown/inaccessible time frame) God cannot experience time and be timeless at the same time because both concepts are contradictory. Besides, if God came into existence, it means that God is contained within another concept. So is that concept that God is contained within God's God?
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You and everyone else experiences time because you are contained within God. God fills and transcends the interspaces of time and space and as you move in him, you experience time which is the space (void) that keeps being filled (new experiences, places ideas etc) In the same vein, In order for God to have experienced time or have a beginning, He would have to be contained and move (i.e experience) within another being which would mean God has a god and in order for God to have a god, ..
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God would have to be inferior to that god which would call into question His sovereignty and delegate His status to a lesser god or the creation. It is a law of nature that when people come into existence, they are contained within another i.e a mother who is always older and more experienced. So if God came into existence, it means he was contained within someone with more experience and wisdom which means He was inferior in wisdom to that person and therefore is a lesser god.
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God cannot be contained in any space because God transcends all space. In the beginning there was "only" God. There was no land, no sea, no sun, no moon, no man, no space, no time,no universe, no stars, no angels and no other god. There was just the eternal God and "nothing else". And because there was nothing apart from the infinite and only God, Everything that was created had to be created inside the all that is, The, eternal, uncreated, self existent creator God!!!
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Finally, there is only one dimension of time and that time is contained within eternity or in simpler terms, everything you experience as time is in a real sense or from a God perspective happening right now in eternity. The time That Adam and Eve experienced and the one we experience is the same because we ARE THEIR OFFSPRING. I.e If we are not reborn of Christ. We are inseparable from them which is why we all partake of their sin. We are all mini expressions (microcosms) of the greater..
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..Adam and Eve (the macrocosm)
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"Come" into existence= Enter into existence, Be contained within existence which implies to enter something that you were previously not inside. e.g the fertilized eggs come into existence (gain selfhood) in the womb i.e the womb preexists the fertilized egg.
Be eternal= Have no beginning or end. You are the existence that people enter & can never exit (even at death) because you have no end. The totality with no end. The infinity. All experiences are contained within you and you transcend them
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And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. Which is in revelation 21:6
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And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. Which is in revelation 21:6
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Difficul one. Let me just said this:

God is the endless, timeless space before the Creation of the Universe, and its the endless, timeless space after that.

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No because he is the creator and he was in the beginning of the world.
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yes god had a plan for everybody who were willing to be in the plan if not so be
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Hi @Okinawa1985, Hope all is well at your end. Although your question is very brilliant, well intentioned, intelligent, thought provoking and one of the best questions posted in recent times, I think the context of the question "Did" GOD Have a Beginning? makes it seem as if you are trying to assign God to a particular time zone. God cannot be assigned to any time zone because He is uncreated eternal and unchanging. He is the unchanging constant of the universe. If God has a beginning, then it means that He was created and if God was created, then it means that He is a creature and not the creator. God is now. God is not a did. (so to speak) God is a forever doing

God is the ever present God, the I am that I am (not the I was that I was). God is the primary ground, the irreducible element, the originator with no origin. God is NOT A then ,a did, or a going to become. God is ever present, and unchanging now and forever more.
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The Bible tells us in the book of Gen 1:1 "In the beginning", God created the heavens. If God was "in the beginning", how can God have a beginning?
Time is finite. God is infinite. Everybody in this world has a beginning and an end (which is why God tells us that God "created" in the beginning) but God has no beginning or end because He is uncreated and eternal.
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My next claims might sound like scenes from a science fiction movie but upon careful reflection, you will realize that Time is simply perception. Time is how your mind quantifies the flow of consciousness. Yesterday was once solid reality but now it is in the content of your mind as a memory i.e a thought and is only retrievable by your memory Matter is continuous, not solid. What you call matter is simply a thought that has been slowed down...
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...to be perceivable to your senses for a moment and the next moment, it becomes an abstract thought in your mind. What you ate as solid food last year only exists as a memory (thought) in your mind. Obama was once president of the US in solid reality but right now, he only exists in that form in your thought field (memory) From a time perspective, the past is the only constant in the universe meaning the past is the only phase that will forever remain past. The present will eventually
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...become the past and The future will eventually become the present and then the past. Yesterday (which was once today) is gone, if God keeps us, today will eventually become yesterday (the past) and tomorrow will eventually become the past. Since the past is the only constant in the universe, then it means that the contents of the past are the only "constant reality" and when we examine the contents of the past, we will realize that the past only contains thoughts. i.e our pasts are ..
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..simply memories encoded in our minds. So from a time perspective, the past is thought, the present is thought projected as matter (form) for a moment and until it happens, (i.e until it becomes a solidified present) the future is possibility i.e thoughts that have not yet been solidified into form. What we call time is the continuous projection (flow) of thoughts (consciousness) in an eternal now. The thoughts are now but our perception of them is what we call time.
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But God is eternal. God is "not" perception. God is reality as it is. God cannot be subject to the laws of birth, aging and decay. God cannot be subject to the changing phases of the world. God is the standard, the substance, not the shadow. The way things are and will always be.
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Thoughts like water exist in 3 states, the past, the present and the future and like water they are forever flowing and unstable i.e they keep changing states. The past (abstract memories) The present (thoughts solidified into form) and the future (possibilities, thoughts that we havent yet experienced as form i.e the thoughts that our minds haven't yet experienced as solid & abstract) But God unlike water is unchanging. He is uncreated. He is not a fleeting perception or sensation. He is.
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BERRINTON, thank you, and everything is good at my end. Actually, my friend, I'm trying to keep GOD in the “time zone” Moses did. As you already know, scientifically speaking, all things have a Beginning! With GOD, however, the Beginning is absolutely inexplicable, because of HIS unmatchable uniqueness. And in addition to HIS unmatchable uniqueness, I suggest that GOD'S Beginning can only be qualified in one way, and it remains spiritual nevertheless, which is to say
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Cont'd>> that GOD'S Beginning is there at the Beginning which Genesis 1-1 points to. And I believe it is to that Beginning Moses spoke of, that remains the most inexplicable and most unidentifiable of all beginnings. The way I see it BERRINTON, where GOD is concern, HE doesn't have to be a creation to have a Beginning. One thing we can agree on, one which appears to be so, is that Moses believed GOD had a beginning, which I believe was there at the Beginning he, Moses, spoke
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Cont'd>> of there at Genesis 1-1. In fact, upon allowing myself to STOP and truly rethink my belief in the GODHEAD, it was this (Genesis 1-1) along with John 1:1-3 that helped to change change my belief regarding the relationship between Almighty GOD and Jesus Christ. As I came to understand Moses' acknowledgment, GOD'S Beginning was there at the beginning which Moses declared. I believe that through such a Beginning, GOD remains eternal. As the Alpha and the Omega,
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Cont'd>> HE continues on through time indefinite, and it is because of HIS inexplicable and most unidentifiable Beginning, that expands HIS uniqueness, and the disbelief many hold in HIS true existence. That being said, I must ask the question, “Does it really matter?” If GOD felt it important enough for us to know, wouldn't HE have made it well known to us? With that I say, and believe, GOD did have a Beginning. Even though the Bible explains HIM not to have a
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Cont'd>> “beginning or ending,” I believe GOD'S Beginning was just as Moses stated, “In the beginning” whenever and wherever it was!
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@Okinawa1985. Nice to know that everything is good at your end. As usual, I enjoyed reading your reply but I think we are gonna disagree on some points. You cant keep God in the time zone because time is a created word. When we speak of time we speak of something that has an origin , of something that proceeds from something else. Everything that has a beginning You, me and every other person in the world came from an original source. But the word beginning cannot be associated with..
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..God because He is eternal. Attaching a time zone to an eternal God is equivalent to attempting to recreate God in our own image and likeness. Jesus told the Jews before Abraham was I am. If he were subject to time like you and me, he would have claimed before Abraham was I was. You claim Moses kept God in the time zone but when revealing Himself to Moses, God told Moses that He was the I am that I am (meaning I am self existent). God's nature could be described as a self existent selfhood..
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..a selfhood that is not derived or dependent on another self but we are derived and created selves. We all come from another, from parents. If you beat time , space and all created phenomena back to day one you will be left with God and "nothing" else which is why God calls Himself the beginning and the end meaning before everything began and after everything ends there will still be the same God unchanged and eternal.
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If you read Gen 1:5 You will notice that the Bible tells us that after God created the day and night the evening and the morning were the "first" day. But the Bible makes us understand that prior to the 1st day (day denotes time), God already existed. So even before there was a day, a night a sun, a moon (which we use to identify days and night) light, darkness people, etc. there was God.
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And He was there in the beginning (John 1:1, Gen 1:1) If God was in the beginning, how can he be said to have a beginning? Time like i wrote previously is perception. It is not a static or solid quality . In time things have a beginning and end. In time things change and cease. But in eternity the sphere of God, things have no beginning and end and things do not change. They forever remain the same.
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Time is how you quantify your experiences. The difference between this moment and the next is something in your mind (which you previously experienced as solid) and something you experience as solid right now So time is a mind thing. the seemingly unending and continual flow of consciousness that is happening in an eternal and unchanging now. You might wonder how a world and a universe that seems so static and stable could be said to described being in a state of flux i.e flow
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But consider the earth. Science tells us that it rotates around its own axis and revolves around the sun annually but in "our" own experience, it is static and stable. Consider your body, science tells us that every 5-7 years with the exception of your brain cells all your cells die and are replaced by new ones. In fact science tells us that we lose 2 million red blood cells daily but despite the constant changes to your body, your our iness your okinawaness so to speak remains the same.
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Also your body and every material on earth is made up of atoms, these atoms are made up of electrons and these according to science, these electrons are in a constant state of motion and their location and momentum cannot be exactly predicted. So how can a body that looks so exact consist of subatomic particles that are in a constant state of motion? despite appearances to the contrary, the material world is in a continuous but "persistent" state of motion and this motion reflects the motions
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of our minds or our consciousness but unlike time which flows i.e moves, eternity is still and unchanging. We are experiencers of time i.e motion of changing thoughts and these thoughts are really occurring in timelessness. (i.e the sphere of God) which is why the Bible tells us in Acts 17:28 :"..in Him" we live move and have our being. Despite the fact that we appear to be in a time world separated from God, we are really in the eternal state where God is all that is.
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And therefore, we cant run or hide from Him (Rev20:11) because He is all that really is.
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I am the 1st and the last (Rev 1:11) meaning before there was existence (before I created anything) and after the existence of my creation, I still am and will forever be or in other words, I am the unchanging constant in the universe.
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Great, BERRINTON, excellent, and I agree! Again, I guess I wasn't clear in my thoughts. It was to the beginning mentioned at Genesis 1:1 and John 1:1-3 to which I believe GOD belongs, and which provides the most important. I understand what you are saying. You and Mark (MJ) taught me that some time ago.
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@Okinawa1985 Nice to know that we are agreed although I do not expect you to take everything that I wrote hook, line and sinker without careful reflection. Whenever we want to understand God and His nature, We must "always" ensure that we do not ascribe the same attributes that we ascribe to ourselves to Him because God is the Creator and we are His creature. I know my theory that time isnt real might seem hard to understand and digest but look at it this way. 1st of all, what is time.
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and why do we have time? Time is the measurement of experience and we have time on earth because according to science the "earth" rotates on its own axis (24 hours) and around the sun (365 1/4) days. Now if God created the earth and the sun, then it means that He pre-existed both of them and if God preexisted the earth,the sun, the moon and the stars, then how could time exist before God?
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Another thing you must understand is that time is not an absolute quality. It is relative upon the speed of the observer (einstein ) and where (i.e the location) it is observed. For example, a year in venus (224.65 earth days) is longer than a day in venus ( 243 Earth days) so a day in venus is nearly 20 Earth days longer than its year. So assuming God began to exist from a time perspective, what time zone was the beginning of His existence based upon? Was it based on the time zone ..
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on Venus, the Earth , Jupiter (where a year is about 12 earth years long)? Even on earth, time is relative. The time in Hawaii in the US is almost 24 hrs behind the time in Apia, Samoa so when it is today in Hawaii it is yesterday in Apia. So time is not absolute and everything in time always has a beginning and whatever has a beginning must have an end. But God is the infinite with no boundaries (i.e no beginning or end) that created the finite, we who have a beginning and an end.
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correction: I meant to write a year in venus is shorter than a day in venus.
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So whenever you wanna think of God, think of Him as the only I am that I am. The original. We are not what we are. We are derived. You are the genes of your parents and we are all the inherited characteristics of our original parents Adam and Eve which is why we all sin like they did. But God is the original un-derived and self existent self. He is who he is because He is authentic, unique and un-derived. The original with no origin.
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https://www.wired.com/2016/09/arrow-of-time/
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Obviously, BERRINTON, can't disagree with any of it!
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BERRINGTON, if such is all true, may I suggest then that "Before the beginning, GOD was.. and the beginning was forged by means of HIM?" Therefore, before GOD, there was nothing except for GOD!"
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Excellent @Okinawa1985. You nailed it. The beginning was forged by God because before the beginning, there was nothing but God and the beginning was called the beginning because it was the start" of something other than God. i.e the creation. The universe, motion, energy, space, matter, the galaxies solar systems are all created concepts so also is time because (according to science) time (on earth) exists because of the motion of created objects i.e the earth around the sun and since God
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..created and pre-exists the earth which produces the motion which apparently creates time on earth and since He also created and pre-existed the minds which perceive time as reality (i.e you and me) then it means that God is timeless, boundless i.e cannot be confined in space (which is also a created concept). Explaining God in human words is often cumbersome because He always transcends everything we can think or say of Him so I m not gonna fault you for falling a bit short in your...
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closing statement "Therefore, before GOD, there was nothing except for GOD!" The word "before" denotes time and cannot be applied to God. God is boundless i.e without before and after. God is. So because of that I would rephrase your closing statement as "before "creation," i.e the beginning there was nothing except for God." Blessings to you and yours.
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Understood, BERRINTON! This is where my confusion was, but no longer exists. The atheist and/or pure scientist cannot comprehend due to their need to have power over their own logic. Yesterday, I was as the atheist and/or pure scientist. In the realm of our existence all things must have a beginning. Therefore, dealing with our finite logic, we feel we must attach a beginning even to GOD, because of how illogical it seems not to. Thank you, and Peace to you and yours!
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As far as our limited lifespan, knowledge and dimension God would be eternal. He is said to be a spirit. What that means we do not exactly know. Christ said that God was invisible and could not be seen. There are a lot of things we do not know or understand. It is like a atom in our body trying to understand it's universe it can't be done. How do we know how vast our universe is or if it is not part of a much bigger universe? How do we know that there is not a much smaller universe with someone thinking the same thing. The possibilities are endless. One could go crazy thinking about them all. The same is true for trying to understand God. It can't be done at this present time. All we can do is speculate.
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May I gently correct your statement that Christ said God was invisible and could not be seen, Sherry?! Believe and read the Word of God (KJV) - God is indeed Spirit, and He has a Form - we are made in His Image! He sits upon the Throne. The Lord Jesus came from Heaven to reveal Him. Receive Christ into your life and believe that He died for your sins; you will have the assurance of seeing God in Heaven. Indeed, Christ presents believers before God when He takes them up to Him at the Rapture.
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Christ is the visible image of God. Being made in God's image does not mean a physical image but a spiritual one. We have a brain that thinks, we have emotions and we have a soul. Three parts just like God.
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If scriptures are accurately translated, and our interpretations conform the accuracy of them, one being that through manifestation GOD appeared to mankind in the form of Jesus, and that Jesus was indeed, a fleshly man, complete (as Sherry40 believes) “with a brain, emotion and a soul,” then I suggest, at the very least, for a period of approximately 32 and ¼ years Jesus was not GOD, but through GOD'S holy spirit was made of flesh, blood and bone, all the physical characteristics
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Cont'd>> of a man, sustained by means of holy spirit to keep GOD from dying (or being destroyed). Jesus then being a “living soul', and though perfect as a human, received the ultimate of imperfect conditions, which was death as a living soul.
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Again, if I may gently say that you are making your search for God too complicated! The Gospel is simple - we are sinners, Christ came down to shed His Blood to make us right with God, clean and able to be filled with the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ said in John 8:31-32, "If you continue in My word, then are ye My disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. I'd like to invite you to search Basar Teaching, a blog full of good things for your souls!
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Colossians 1:15
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.
Hebrews 11:27
By faith he left Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king; for he endured, as seeing Him who is unseen.
John 1:18
No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.
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who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can
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God is invisible you can not see Him. Christ is the visible form of God. God Is three parts a body, Christ, A spirit, and the Father the part that directs and controls everything. Just like we do. Body, soul, mind.
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And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. Which is revelation 21:6 That should settle the score
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Who is asking the Question?! GOD - the Godhead comprising three Equal Persons - is essentially Eternal. The Lord Jesus Christ, called Melchisedek in the Old Testament - Equal with God on the Throne and the Holy Spirit - is described as being "Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually". If we are preparing to spend our Eternity with God, because we believe on the cleansing Blood of Christ, then surely we should want to know all about Him while we can. Everything about God matters! God gave us a Lamb for a Sacrifice, and the Lord Jesus, that Lamb, gave His all. The Holy Spirit also displays much patience in dealing with carnal Christians who say they are believers but can't be bothered to read the Bible (KJV) and live a separated life! God is Eternal and therefore has no beginning. When He says He is the Beginning and the End, He refers to His dealings with mankind.
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To ask if god had a beginning is in a sense putting God(the energy) into a perspective of being something thats logical. Truthfully i believe there are just different energies we can tap into for different possible reasons, and they produce many different outcomes based off our emotions, As for god Belief is good, especially if it's positive energy. cause as they say put in positive, get out positive, but remember to keep in your mind, for every yin, there will be a yang.
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What we has a whole do not seem to comprehend "ALL THINGS" were created by Him and for Him. That would include science, Time was created by God and how the brains work which is what God wants because we are created in His image, God said nothing is impossible for man to do. We create something good and then someone uses it for evil. Was space there before the stars, or were there stars before space? Or was both always there? No space, galaxies etc had to be created.
So the question is why did God want to create the universe? I think/believe it is to get man to believe in His WORD by faith. Science cannot disprove the Bible, science should explore how, we know why. We see through DNA we all came from Adam and could not have come through animals.
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Omnipotence and Omnipresence mean that wherever we might search God is present and all powerful. If the universe is still expanding He is both where it is now and where it is going. He is before the beginning and after the end, all at once.God IS.
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God has no beginning, no ending, and is without limit. Finite beings cannot comprehend the infinite. He is the infinite eternal source of all wisdom, love, and power, without whom nothing else could exist.
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The scientific specialist knows more and more about less and less, the philosophic generalist knows less and less about more and more, and both have put their blinders on to shut out any moral decision. The door is opened wide for a lasting holocaust. According to teaching of the Church God always existed and he will make fools of wise men of Earth (scientists).
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HA, HA ... that is soooo true! I remember reading an article in a 1970 publication that reported on then recent discoveries in outer space related to theories of origin. The concluding sentence was: " As scientists take the final steps over the precipice, they are surprised to find a dedicated theologian who has been there quite awhile awaiting them".
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A consensus of scientific theory explains that for life to have started, there must have been a genetic molecule like DNA or RNA capable of passing along blueprints for making proteins, the workhorse molecules of life. But modern cells can’t copy DNA & RNA without the help of proteins themselves. None of these molecules can do their jobs without fatty lipids, which provide the membranes that cells need to hold their contents inside. A chicken-and-egg complication, protein-based enzymes (encoded by genetic molecules) are needed to synthesize lipids. So, even if we question the eternal (having no beginning) existence of God, some molecule (I’m content to call God) must have always been there! To imagine God as having a definite beginning is to strip Him of His eternal Omnipotence because whatever was BEFORE Him had to have contributed to His beginning ( making whatever THAT might be Greater more powerful than Him).
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The thing about God that qualifies Him to be true God is His uniqueness. There’s only ONE, There’s NONE above Him or Before Him! If He was not ALWAYS, HE is NOT rightfully THE CREATOR 9because by logical inference SOMEONE or SOMETHING created HIM! While you say it isn't important for you, God Almighty is no better or different from any other false god if He is NOT eternal (having neither a beginning or an end). If you're content to worship & serve a lesser god then I now know why you fail to
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comprehend the mystery of the Triune Godhead - the deity of the Father & Jesus Christ & the Holy Spirit. Believing each to be 'lesser gods' than the 'Father Jehovah' now apparent by your recent idea that even who you call GOD is a creation, rather than the SUPREME Original Creator.
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Man has always tried to make God like man instead of Man acting like a servant to God, but Jesus said we could call God FATHER. Think about that for a minute and for me it shows how much Jesus did for us at the birth (goodwill towards men) we don't have to fight against God, salvation on the cross and to be born again at the resurrection. Faith not science gets us saved,
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