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Donald Trump, is he a "Miracle from GOD" or a Curse?

For one, truth is the true or actual state of a matter: It is conformity with fact or reality, a verified or indisputable fact, proposition and/or principle. One who tells the truth, he or she is one who bears the state or character of being truthful. In today's political climate, truth is MOST often difficult to find because politicians refuse to accept the fact that it is “truth that 'truly' does set us free.'” It is also, I believe, outside of HIS absolute LOVE for us all, the one major attribute which defines GOD'S infallible RIGHTEOUSNESS!

Recently, on cable news, I heard an Evangelical try to explain his support for our current POTUS. In essence, he was willing to put aside all of the POTUS's shortcomings, giving him a mulligan or pass, in exchange for being someone willing to adhere to the “conservative/Evangelical” agenda, thus angering me when further saying or suggesting that the POTUS was some kind of miracle from GOD.

So, then, if the POTUS is this suggested “miracle” sent by GOD, it was surely to destroy this GREAT Republic. How say you?

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god or curse? no.. he is a joke for america...........................................................
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He is a Joke on America by his Wall Street Military Industrial Complex (MIC) Puppet Masters. But unfortunately not very funny on typical American. And for absolute proof of this just look at the state of Healthcare in USA where 100-Million+ have NO Healthcare, all so that Wall Street can make an EXTRA $1-Trillion per Year on profit on the back of, on the misery of, American People. While 100% of all Developed Nations have non-profit Universal Socialized Healthcare.
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B***t Deporter. Will you ever stop lying? EVERY American, and even you Traitors, has access to healthcare.
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Mm, how the f***k is every American having a access to healthcare when we do not have universal socialized healthcare like they have in your beloved Israel? If we did you traitor then 2 Million + American would not be going bankrupt per year due to healthcare costs, 50000 Americans would not be killer per year due to no healthcare. You f***g psycho 🤬
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What has socialized (Socialism) healthcare have to do with access to healthcare? NOTHING!

At NO TIME in my history have I EVER posted ANYTHING about Israel, good or bad, so what in hell are you talking about when you say, "my beloved Israel?"

Everyone in America has access to healthcare, PERIOD.

Further, DOZENS of my relatives have DIED even though they had the BEST healthcare available on the planet. NO ONE IN MY FAMILY HAS EVER SURVIVED MODERN HEALTHCARE, so why in hell would I want it?

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It's just a stupid image of American Culture.
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Depends on your political views. I approve of most he doing. If he don't get the wall he wont make 2nd term.
I was hoping he would run years ago instead of Romney. So ill just say a miracle. And hope he don't mess up.
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If he gets the Wall he wont end his 1st term, as the intelligent and real patriotic Americans will tear that Wall down and tear down the Psycho party that has become the Republican party. To be exact rather than have a Wall between us and our beautiful Neighbor in the South, we need High Speed Trains connecting major US Cities with major Mexican cities, as Europeans are building such High Speed Trains connections between all major European Countries.
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Well now the middle class is going to foot the bill again with a 25 cent US Tax per gallon of fuel for all vehicles. Whom owns the majority of those vehicles? His wall that was supposed to go up and Mexico was to foot the bill has not even grown an inch yet. Can't wait to see this new tax bill that Mr. President has created, just whom does it help actually? President Donald Trump is definitely not a miracle from God, God does not work on $$, he works on faith. Don't have any faith in President..

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Whereas I don't believe Mr. Donald is a miracle from God. I do believe he will fulfill God's purpose. God was more aware of him becoming president than a lot of us hoped. Behind the foolishness of his childish and pompous ways, God created man for His glory and will use whom He chooses.

Why Donald Trump is in office is beyond me. However, we are to continue to pray for those who have rule over us. Pray for God's purpose to be fulfilled even through this leader .

What shall be only God truly knows, so continue to seek Him.
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Well you could say that about anyone, that is you could say:
"I do believe he (Hitler) will fulfill God's purpose"

Beside that I totally agree with your comment that:
"Why Donald Trump is in office is beyond me."
The answer to which are either:
1- Too many American People have been brain washed into raving lunatics thanks to the right-wing lies pouring out of Wall Street based Media such as Fox
2- US is not a Democracy and that a Wall Street Military Industrial Complex Cabal controls US


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RealPuppet, candidate Trump made no secret, about what he would do as president.
He is already well on his way to Making America Great Again. While the media, deep state, congressional Democrats, racists mobs and foreign enemies oppose him he keeps on getting things done.
The illegal or boneheaded changes made during the last administration are slowly going away first.
The 0bama Error's only enduring legacy will soon be the failed "Cash for Clunkers". You can expect that the U.S. will soon...
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look like something the Framers would recognize, as the country they left in our keeping.
We will very soon be rid of foreign invaders, deadbeats leeching off of taxpayers, communists, liberals, Nazis, Clintonites and all other low forms of the Democrat Party.
A new pro-American party will emerge, in its place to share power and help the people, as the Republicans always have. God bless America.
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Only in the mind of a complete Moron, a brain dead buffoon made so by Fox and other organs of the Ultra right-wing Media, is:
"He is already well on his way to Making America Great Again"

Now as a US Citizen I wish that would be True, but Trump is doing the EXACT opposite of what would "Making America Great Again".
Given the fact that Trump like buffoons like you, the "real foreign enemy within", oppose all that is needed to make a Country great in 21st Century, such as:
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1- Government run Universal Socialized Healthcare (NHS), something so essential for well being of a Nation in the 21st Century, that 100% of all Developed Nations have it, including Israel the beloved Nation of you Republicans lunatics and the Ultra right-wing Media and Clinton Obama Democrats

2- Strict Gun laws that all Conservative parties in UK, Australia, etc. Developed Nations support, repeat for you Trump Republican lunatics, all Conservative parties in UK, Australia, etc. support as a
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result of which while UK, Australia, etc. has had ZERO mass shootings in 20 Years, repeat for you Trump Republican lunatics, UK, Australia, etc. has had ZERO mass shootings in 20 Years, US due to its insane Gun laws Trump Republicans champion has one mass shooting after another with the RECORD mass shooting happening few months back during Trump MAGA with 59 Americans KILLED in Vegas and 500+ injured

etc. wrong and EVILS that Trump Republican lunatics support, leading to more miserable USA.
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real_patriot, only a blind and deaf person couldn't see or hear how divisive and destructive the Trump Machine is. You are right to suggest that MOST Republicans (conservatives & evangelicals alike) support things that are contrary to what has made MOST of America GREAT for many many decades. Democrats, likewise, support things I, myself, disagree with, but support the party for reasons the average person who reads and studies scriptures, Republican, Democrat and/or Independent, may find
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Cont'd>> contrary to more popular beliefs. Neither major Parties are above reproach, yet from what I have observed here in this forum, is that those who defend and support the Trump Machine of Republicans, conservatives and evangelicals, seem to turn a blind eye to their MANY shortcomings, but are quick to point out the shortcomings of Democrats, which I admit are several, whether meretriciously or nefariously by design or not. Fact is, real_patriot, you can't
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Cont'd>> even find a republican who can seriously admit that their party has a problem, more or less, have many problems. I know there's at least 12 or 13% racism still left in the Democratic Party, and thanks to the POTUS, the Republican racist no longer have to hide their true feelings, they've become openly expressive, and there's NOT one Republican, conservative and/or evangelical who can deny that with a straight face – but they continue to do so, every single day.
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I believe the Democratic Party must find a way to continue championing for the American, without promoting and supporting the things I truly believe are contrary to GOD. How can this be done? For one, they can stop making into law the promotion and support for gay rights, abortion and, of course, gay/same sex marriage. For I believe such things are allowed by GOD under HIS granting of free will to all of us, while making HIS disapproval of such things very clear throughout scriptures.
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Therefore, the law must be the law! In other words, the same laws that protect heterosexuals must be likewise enforced to protect homosexuals. Special laws should not be created to protect homosexuals, nor to support their desire to marry one another, as well as force others against their will to perform such marriage. Of course, there are MANY other things to take into consideration, but these are my main 'pet peeves' regarding the Democratic Party.
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Abortion, should not be supported through legislature. However, if clinics and hospitals are willing to perform abortions, they, as will the ones desiring such, have to answer to GOD.
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I agree with real_patriot & Okinawa. That is Trump Republicans either have totally lost their mind or are just a 5th column enemy agent within. And yes best example of that is state of Healthcare in USA, where these Mother F***S fully know that "Government run Universal Socialized Healthcare (NHS)" is only way to run Healthcare of a country since only 100% of all Developed Nations have it, yet they oppose it for US, so that their buddies on Wall Street can make Trillion+ off misery of US :(
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Do you mal-informed people have to see the economy or the U.S. itself collapse before you understand you are totally wrong?
Homosexuals and trannies are currently protected under all of the laws that protect the rest of us.
Abortion is the killing of another human being. If it is not criminal then how is it not okay to have your now-unwanted parents euthanized, while you are at the gym. Just drop them off in the morning and pick up their urns after work.
I am finally getting to the point...
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...where I am reconsidering the Republican Party. It has been following the Democrats down that long dark path of criminality, corruption and intolerance. Their steady leftward decline has become all too apparent. While I refuse to leave my centrist, equal justice and pro-constitutional position they have moved towards a socialist ethic, which amounts to no ethic at all.
I owe this awakening to many contributors here. I had no previous idea that so many people had devolved to your level.
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Cal, I must rebuff your statement – “can’t find a republican who can seriously admit that their party has a problem” – I’m one! As I mentioned B4, I was a Dem for many years until the Reagan presidency. At that time I was literally black-balled by the Teamsters who are dyed-in-the-wool donkeys. I was state prosecutor’s witness in a union busting scheme initiated & funded by the DNC. It was 1980, Reagan was running for president & his platform perfectly agreed with ALL the issues I
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proving in court that the DNC & Teamsters were secretly guilty of. I voted for Reagan & have been a member of the GOP ever since. I now have been a Rep. a decade LONGER than I was a Dem. But I’ll be the 1st to admit – the Republicans have as many problems as the Dems. The biggest reason I like Trump is his realization of the need to ‘drain the swamp’ – in BOTH parties! Too long now has Congress been remiss in their sworn duties to uphold the will of the people. Instead they ALL sit on
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their laurels doing nothing but the same ole same ole year after year. They earn bigger salaries than 90% of the rest of America & pretend to empathize w/the middle-class? Trump is a billionaire, but donates his salary to worthy charities. He is NOT in it for the money. Take a moment to realize from a different perspective than the left influenced media, regarding the many persons who have been fired or resigned his administration. Instead of the spin the media puts on that info, could it
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it be that he is actually draining the swamp & transparent beyond what we have been used to seeing for decades? Notice – decades involves the Bush administration too. That Republican administration had multiple problems & shenanigans motivated by personal gain! So, yes – I do admit that the GOP “has a problem, more or less, has many problems”. I know there's more racism in the Democratic Party – they have used the ‘race card’ as a means of capturing the votes of uneducated, easy to
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influence minorities for hundreds of years. B4 you go off accusing me & other GOP’s of ‘white-supremacy’ – realize this: I have 3 bi-racial grandchildren who live with me, because their father deserted them. One of my 5 grand-daughters was killed in an auto accident by an illegal alien drunk driver, who was NEVER prosecuted. As a theologian & pastor for over 40 years, I am very familiar w/Trumps religious upbringing & know well his childhood pastor. NO, he’s NOT perfect – who is?
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Think deeply about THAT B4 throwing the 1st stone! Your claim: “the Republican racists no longer have to hide their true feelings, they've become openly expressive, and there's NOT one Republican, conservative and/or evangelical who can deny that with a straight face – but they continue to do so, every single day”. Well, you cannot see my face, but it is straight & with sincere tearful eyes, I am appalled @ your obstinacy that has made politics more important than spiritual reality.
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You have admittedly placed political rhetoric above the truth. Please return to your former stand on righteousness - based upon Biblical standards, NOT political.
To see you siding with those who you once opposed (the parroting-copy & paste crew from realnewsposts.org) is sad. To understand why is an enigma. You haven't even replied to specific questions I raised regarding your love of Obama vs, your hatred of Trump. Is it godly?
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MJ, I also have thought that Okinawa was the only savable lost soul here (politically speaking, of course). Though I keep bumping heads with him and teasing him, in the hope that he becomes more socially and politically reflective. So far nada, he just seems to get more hateful and unreasonable.
If there is any accuracy to John 8:32 "Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." The truth isn't working for Cal, no matter how many times we repeat it.
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TOS - Reminiscent of Bill Clinton’s coy remark, “that depends on what your definition of ‘is’ is”, there is a tendency by NEVER Trumpers to think merely in subjective terms, rarely displaying the slightest objectivity. Although they’ve been repeatedly reminded of the universal understanding of these two approaches . Subjective information or writing is based on personal opinions, interpretations, points of view, emotions & judgment. It is ill-suited for scenarios like factual news re
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reporting or decision making in business or politics. Objective information or analysis is fact-based, measurable & observable. Sadly, forums like this tend to wrongly infer that subjective is superior to objective, claiming 1st Amendment rights protecting their opinions – of course, violating the SAME by tyrannical disapproval of all opposing views. Even in light of irrefutable FACT (obtained by research conducted under the best control environments prescribed by accepted sciences) the extrem
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Of course, their inability to comprehend - much less implement true objectivity - prevents them from even an assumption that their view may be wrong. On the political front in America, it is becoming more & more obvious that Those who regularly are guilty of specific wrongs use accusations of those EXACT wrongs against their opponents. A classic example of both 'the pot calling the kettle black' & 'it takes one to know one'. "For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know
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your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labor be in vain." - 1Thes.3:5. Peace!

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Trump is certainly not "Miracle from GOD" nor a Curse "from Satan". But the continuation of SCAM, the Info War, that Wall Street Billionaire class been running on American Middle class. And absolute proof of this is his, theirs, stand on Healthcare. When these bastards oppose Government run Universal Healthcare (NHS), what 100% of all Developed Nations have, including Israel the beloved Nation of Republicans Trump & right-wing Media such as Fox, etc.. And great demo of this was just today, when Trump twitted:
“The Democrats are pushing for Universal HealthCare while thousands of people are marching in the UK because their U system is going broke and not working. Dems want to greatly raise taxes for really bad and non-personal medical care. No thanks!”

To which the Conservative MP, repeat for Republican lunatics, the Conservative MP, Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt, twitted back:
"I may disagree with claims made on that march but not ONE of them wants to live in a system where
28m people have no cover. NHS may have challenges but I’m proud to be from the country that invented
universal coverage - where all get care no matter the size of their bank balance"

Here:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42943768
& for full discussion of this:
http://www.realnewspost.org/sa.php?a=64892
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TD, excellent answer to demonstrate yet again what lunatics or WORSE Republicans Trumps and right-wing Media in USA are. I mean what better way to prove this but the words of the Margaret Thatcher's Conservative MP in UK to do so. Keeping in mind that for ions, at least until the advent of the Internet age and specially non-Wall Street based Social networks such as this Anoox, Republicans been telling US that Margaret Thatcher's Conservative is:
"The symbol of Free Market"
and Margaret
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Thatcher's Conservative in UK, as per this Tweet by Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt are 100% for their NHS. Because only a lunatic or WORSE the True Enemy of a Nation would be against NHS since NHS means all People of a Country having Healthcare while spending 50% LESS on Healthcare, compared to US for profit Wall Street based Healthcare.

So Bravo Man for sharing this Bitch Slapping of Trump by UK Conservative MP Jeremy Hunt. Now lets see if the Fake News of MSNBC Fox, etc. will cover this!
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Are you minions still humping the legs of NHS scammers? Trump got it right and Jeremy Hunt got it wrong. NO AMERICAN CITIZEN is doing without medical coverage, just without insurance, which is by their own choice.
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1st, I am glad to see that the Conservative MP, Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt has "Bitched Slap" our so called President Trump with the fact that even though NHS has its problems, which of course any massive complex organization would, that:

"not ONE (person in UK) wants to live in a system (as in USA) where 28M people have no cover"

but he is totally wrong to say that 28-Million Americans have NO Healthcare, the more accurate number is around 100-Million Americans have NO Healthcare given the
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fact that many Americans that have Health insurance cannot actually get any Healthcare due to exorbitant cost of $10,000 per Year per Person cost of Deductibles, 20% Co-pay, etc. Wall Street rip-offs so that Trumps Wall Street pals can make 100s of Billions more of Healthcare of back of American People.

See:
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/06/medical-bills/530679/

and of course given these horrendous facts about life in USA, Trump only refers to data he wants to refer to

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such an "Unemployment is at historic lows", "Black Unemployment is at historic lows" without the bastard ever mentioning whether any of these new Jobs provided real usable Healthcare to these new employees or are they being used and abused like most Americans employees are thanks to the Wall Street right-wing Media that controls this buffoon Trump as all Republicans.
GO ahead ask Trump Admin and Repukes:
What percentage of these new Jobs provided real Healthcare to their employees?
And see.
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And here is more from Brits about their NHS, which highlights more and more what lunatics or worse the True Enemy within Republicans Trump and right-wing Media in USA are:

Piers Morgan
"Wrong, Mr President (Trump). Our NHS is a wonderful, albeit imperfect, health system - and the envy of the world. By comparison, the US healthcare system is a sick joke & the envy of no-one."

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42943768
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RealParrot and Deporter are at it again. They quote the words of professional liar Piers Morgan to convince Americans that the NHS is what America should have, when last year 144,000 Brits sought medical treatment elsewhere. I guess they chose life over dying in the waiting room.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/22/soaring-numbers-flying-abroad-medical-care-nhs-lists-lengthen/
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2 weeks 5 days ago
Thomat, the Republican lunatic: 1st Quote is by Conservative MP Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt, who wrote in reply to Trump tweet (lies):

"I may disagree with claims made on that march but not ONE of them wants to live in a system where 28Million people (Americans) have no cover. NHS may have challenges but I’m proud to be from the country that invented universal coverage - where all get care no matter the size of their bank balance"

Here:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42943768
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2 weeks 5 days ago
RealParrot, more reporting of false statements from abroad. By law, every American citizen is covered for medical care, even if they don't have health insurance or pay taxes. Try getting away with that, in the UK.
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I see that Stinky is parroting the SAME LIES that he has been parroting for years. Will he ever learn that NO ONE likes LIARS?
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2 weeks 4 days ago
mmerlinn, I am afraid that our subnormal friends have an immunity to facts or improved ideas.
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1 week 19 hours ago
Hmmm He is a extra ordinary person.
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1 week 14 hours ago
Who is an extra ordinary person? Thomat? Since you replied here instead of on the main thread, it appears that is who you mean.

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