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Posted On: 2017-11-06 21:28:54
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Texas mass shooting: 26 Killed in Christian Church. Trump/Republicans doing nothing?

Another week, another Mass shooting in USA. This time 26 Killed in a Texas Christian church, of which 26 more than half were Children, for GODs sake :( And this comes only a month since 58 Americans were slaughtered in Vegas. Yet our so called President Trump, Republicans, Democrats and our Media outlets, all they do in response to these daily slaughter of American People, even when they are worshiping in a Christian house of God, such as this killing in Texas, is to say:
"Our prayer is with you"
and do nothing else to address the underlying reasons behind this mass killing of American People!!! OTOH, when UK or Australia had a mass shooting 20 Years ago, their Conservative parties passed strict Gun laws within 2 months, as result of which they have had ZERO mass shooting in 20 Years. So when are American People going to realize who Trump/Republicans/Right-wing Media really are and put an end to this anti-Christian Satanic forces controlling our Media/Government? When?

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As a French Citizen, European Citizen, I must say that it is really astonishing what is happening in USA!
You have one mass shooting after another, and you do nothing about them! Not under Obama and of course not under Trump! Here in France we have had 1 mass shooting in last 50 Years and that was in 2015 by so called ISIS which ISIS lets say is the result of US/UK Wars on Secular Arab States. I tell you if we were having the regular mass shootings that USA is having, we would cut the head of the Politicians who were doing nothing about this horror, as we did during the French revolution when the Rich was doing nothing for the People.
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Vince, exactly my French pal. What kind of lunatics, who but the True Enemy of a Nation, would be against the sensible Gun controls that you have in France, or they have in UK enacted by their Conservative Party, or have in Australia enacted by their Conservative Party, etc.? As result of which while you have 1 Mass shooting per 30 Years, here in USA we have on avg one per Month! This lunatic, this True Enemy within is the Republicans and right-wing Media in USA.
Pass these Truth on.
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When are the French going to outlaw trucks?
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TOS, thank you for proving YET again what Lunatics so many Americans such as you have become thanks to the brain washing of the Wall Street based right-wing Media, aka FAKE News. After all, France has had one Killing with Truck in 100 Years, compared to on average 1 Mass Shooting per Month in USA. So based on above Math, if your brain washed brain can handle Math, Trucks are not an issue for French to worry about.
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Rpt, the problem is that these Republicans, thanks to the brain washing of right-wing Media in US, have stopped dealing with Math and Facts. I mean for GOD sake how can they on their own not realize that France has had "one Killing with Truck in 100 Years" and THINK for a second that based on "1 such event per 100 Years", that killing by Trucks is not an issue, whereas here in USA where we have average of 1 Mass shooting per freaking Month, that GUNS are the issue! HOW! But brain washed.

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World_Traveler reading through the threads here it seems you are full of hatred. The name calling, the belittling, etc. Blame the orange guy all you would like, but it is people like you who demonstrate so much hatred towards anybody that doesn't share your point of view that scares the S**T out of people. Have you ever stopped to think it's that exact personality type that makes people afraid of having their guns taken away?
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1st, there are many other People who are calling for strict Gun controls as rest of the Developed World has had for decades. As UK, Australian Conservative parties supported such strict Gun controls resulting in UK & Australian having almost ZERO mass shooting over last 20 Years.

2nd, on which planet wanting to pass sensible policies that rest of the World has adopted for decades, which would have saved the lives of these Americans massacred in Texas, Vegas, etc. is being "full of hatred!
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WT, you see it is not his fault. It is the Ultra right-wing Wall Street Media, aka Extreme Fake News, that he listens to, such as Fox, etc. whom keep saying:
"Liberals Left are full of Hate"

Based on them equating:

1- Having sensible Gun laws as rest of Developed World has, which would SAVE the lives of 10s of 1000s of Americans Per Year, to be "Hate"

2- Having Universal Socialized Healthcare as rest of Developed World has, which would SAVE lives of 50,000s Americans Per Year, to be "Hate"
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Friend, in Australia, while there have not been mass killings, the result is merely an increase in other crimes: Australians living in fear of crime 80.65 Ranked 43. 7% more than United States. Total crime victims 30.1% Ranked 1st. 43% more than United States. Assault victims 2.4% Ranked 3rd. Twice as much as United States. Property crime victims 13.9% Ranked 2nd. 39% more than United States. Robbery victims 1.2% Ranked 3rd. Twice as much as United States. Bad people do bad things. That's all.
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Friends, I use several tools but today I am using NationMaster which is a vast compilation of data from hundreds of sources. It is the most up-to-date research tool to-date for purposes of comparing nations. It is a massive central data source and a handy way to graphically compare nations. It is not politically motivated in any way and thus has no agenda. It collects and compiles data and makes it easy to retrieve.
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Comptu, only in the mind of Republican lunatics and the psycho lying machines such as Fox has there been:
"in Australia .... the result is merely an increase in other crimes"

NOT in reality, and that is why you never provide URLs to back up your lies, well of course because they are lies.

OTOH, in Australia since they passed their strict Gun bans, backed by their Conservative party, there has been ZERO mass shootings in 20 Years since they passed their strict Gun bans.
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And unlike you Republican lunatics, lunatics because you say lies, of course never backed by facts, because this is the filth that pours out of Fox and rest of Wall Street based right-wing Media, we OTOH back our statements with facts.

HERE:

How murder and suicide figures plummeted in Australia after gun control laws were introduced

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/las-vegas-shooting-australia-gun-laws-control-stephen-paddock-2nd-amendment-nevada-firearm-a7980671.html
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1 week 1 day ago
And here is one more:

No Mass Shootings in Australia in 20 Years: How Did They Do It?

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/no-mass-shootings-australia-20-years-how-did-they-do-n597091

Now compare the above FACTS with on average one Mass Shooting of American People per Month, which massacre of American People, Trump/Republicans and Democrats too, do NOTHING about.
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1 week 1 day ago
Traveler, you totally avoided my question though
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Promo, I TOTALLY answered your question.

Again:

on which planet wanting to pass sensible policies that rest of the World has adopted for decades, which would have saved the lives of these Americans massacred in Texas, Vegas, etc. is being "full of hatred!

And more importantly will SAVE in future lives of 100s of 1000s of American People, " is being "full of hatred!"

So you have to face the fact that it is "Hate Mongering" Media equate sensible Gun control with Hate that re the real enemy.
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Friend,done. Pages 2-5 from here: http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Australia/United-States/Crime
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp#crime_vulnerability
Pages 1-3 Here: http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime
http://www.uspa.org/facts-faqs/safety
http://www.govexec.com/management/2015/08/bees-are-deadliest-non-human-animals-america-cdc/119328/
http://asirt.org/initiatives/informing-road-users/road-safety-facts/road-crash-statistics
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comptu, I see how Australia relates to this conversation, it talks about homicides per capita, I prefer not to live under Australian government myself.

The vulnerability report kind of applies but without something to compare to its kind of pointless.

nationamaster is laughable seeing as it is "perceived" data and not real data

What are the skydiving, road crash and bee links for?
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Not sure I understand this paragraph but will try.

1.) on which planet wanting to pass sensible policies that rest of the World has adopted for decades
1.A) Which policies are you talking about so I can respond?

2.) which would have saved the lives of these Americans massacred in Texas
2.A) That would be wonderful, but how?

3.) is being "full of hatred!
3.A) You do seem as if you are full of hatred, it's scary really.
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Friend, Australia: I was responding to those comparing Australia with US. Take guns away, other crimes understandably go up.
Vulnerability Report: Go to graph on that page. Washington serves as an example of what happens when you impose too strict regulations concerning guns.
NationMaster is a vast compilation of data from hundreds of sources, not only perceived.
The others were in response to the question. IE: More people die from cars than guns, but we don't take away cars.
And, no.
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In France,84 people are dead (including 10 children) and 202 gravely wounded after a truck driver plowed into a crowd of people celebrating Bastille Day in Nice, France.
The restrictive gun laws there, made sure that French citizens were unable to stop the carnage.
Previous attacks, in France, showed that terrorists are well armed.
Democrats want Americans to die like Frenchmen -quietly and without any recourse.


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ThomatOurStore, again you have proven what lunatics right-wing Media in USA has created in Millions of American People such as you:

1- France had less People murdered last Year, including those killed by Truck driver in Nice, than were just Killed in just 2 US Cities of Chicago & Baltimore, due to insane Gun Laws we have here.

2- France has 1 Mass Shooting, the one in 2015, in last 30 Years. This compares with avg of 1 Mass Shooting per Month under Trump/Obama.

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PromoteSolution, are you NOT able to read or somehow choose NOT to read.
You actually asked:

"1.A) Which policies are you talking about so I can respond?
2.A) That would be wonderful, but how?"

The same Policies that UK & Australia passed of STRICT BAN on Guns as result of which they have had ZERO mass shootings in 20 Years!

Here AGAIN:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/las-vegas-shooting-australia-gun-laws-control-stephen-paddock-2nd-amendment-nevada-firearm-a7980671.html
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World_Traveler, I am glad to see that such normal People as you exists in USA, since after all it is considered normal to be for strict Gun bans and seriously abnormal and down right sick crazy to be for the state of Gun rights that exists in USA leading to one mass shooting of American People after another. And it is really amazing to read the comments by these crazy people, aka Republicans, against your commonsense position, which are shared by all parties in Europe.
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vince_fx, yes and lets state these bizarre facts: Republican psychos, and right-wing Media lying machine that makes them the psychos they are, argue against commonsense Gun policies that you all have in Europe, or they have in Australia, or Japan, etc. by saying such strict Gun bans are:
"Socialism"
"Communism"
"Hitler speeches"
etc. psychos non-sense.

And they say the same psychos non-sense about every other good thing, such as the Universal Socialized Healthcare that you all have!

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World_T, you are totally right about it is anti-Christian Satanic forces controlling Trump/Republicans as per this mass shooting of Christians in Texas that Trump/Republicans are not doing a damn thing about. As they did not a damn thing about 59 Americans Killed in Vegas mass shooting only few weeks back. But you know these same facts also apply to Obama Democrats, given the fact that there were just as many mass shootings during Obama Democrats, such as Sandy Hook with 20 massacred there being Children and Obama/Dems did not do a damn thing about them either.
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Melo, I did not say that Democrats are guilt free in this regard. In fact I did write:
"Yet our so called President Trump, Republicans, Democrats and our Media outlets do NOTHING"

So yes, it is not just Republicans that have done nothing regarding this issue, but just as in Healthcare, Democrats have done same as Republicans, once in office.
Only difference is Democrats say some of the right-stuff when running for Office, while Republicans are such lunatics to champion these horrible wrongs!

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Friends, please use common sense. It's the person not the tool. 100 people per day are killed with cars - that's 36,500 people per year die from cars. Take away the cars? 90 to 100 people die from bees each year. Take away the bees? In just the first two and a half months of the year, 376 people have died in plane crashes, compared to a total of 462 for the whole of last year. Plane crashes seem to be increasing. Take away planes? Across the country, 70 percent of those who died on railroads in 2014, some 575 people, were killed by freight trains. Take away the trains? In 2013, there were 3.2 million jumps out of airplanes in the United States, and only 24 people were killed in the process. That's about 8 in a million. Take away parachutes? Total number of mass shootings in the US is 308. Take away the guns? Please hold individuals accountable for the crimes they commit and not the tools they used. Backward logic isn't logical. It's embarrassing. gunviolencearchive.org
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comptu, are you Republicans completely brain dead or the complete enemy of American People? So you are actually saying, that we should not take sensible steps that other Developed Nations have taken, which would nearly eliminate on average 1 Mass shooting per Month that we are having in USA, as for example UK has not had a Mass shooting in 20 Years since they put in place strict Gun controls supported by their Conservative party, because People also die in Car Crashes and Airplane crashes?
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How can you be saying such an insane thing!
After all, Car manufactures have spent and are spending every Year 10s of Billions of Dollars to make Cars safer, resulting in: Air Bag, ABS Break system, Collision detection systems, Rear view Camera, etc. etc.
And Airplane makers, specially lead by European AirBus have made incredible improvements in safer flying, resulting in almost ZERO Crash by a major Airline in US/Europe last year.

So how can you be so brain dead to ignore these facts?
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Because the psychotic garbage that you said, is pouring on 24/7 basis out of Ultra right-wing Media, such as Fox, and Ultra lunatic right-wing Media, such as Rush, and dozens of Web Sites funded by dark Wall Street Money of such vermin as Mercers, Kochs, etc. whom feast on the misery of American People.
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Some people don't care about fact so they will deflect from the truth to support their agenda. Cars don't kill people, people driving cars kill people. The more the left make life unimportant aka abortion ignore gun laws and other laws the more people don't care about any law the more people break the laws. Chicago isn't about stopping drive by shooting they are more interested in protecting the guilty than protecting the innocent. Chicago has the most stringent laws in America.
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Gun control is just about control and guns are just the tool to control people so they don't have to serve people. It is a play right out of the Nazi/communist playbook, deflect, divide and conquer. That is the same reason the left doesn't want tax reform, because the government will lose control of the people through THEIR money.
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Golfer,

If the new tax plan passes, the wealthiest people will pay 20% taxes instead of 35%. How is that controlling anyone other than the working people who will be forced to pick up the slack behind the rich ass holes?
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Reporter has once again shown how the corrupt, corporate left-wing media has taken over the control of the weak-minded, like him/her/it and their fellow brain-dead zombie trolls.
Their baseless, fallacious and stupid attacks are repeated with mind-numbing regularity by the dolts, in that "trailer park of the internet" - RealDumbPosts.org
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Just when I thought the anti-American group couldn't sound any dumber - Wheeler shoes up!
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Shoes- should be shows.
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Thom,

What's the problem? Too much moonshine?
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Friend, again, your facts are in error. The only ones who benefit from gun removal, are criminals. The state's which have the highest gun control laws also have the highest crime rates almost in perfect direct proportion to the advent of the laws. Using other countries as examples also does not work in with crime facts. France total 61.03 per 1000 Ranked 14th. 48% more than United States. Yet they have fewer people and fewer guns.
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comptu, you are absolutely correct, but as you can see, waving facts in front of these idiots only makes them lie even more.
ALL 109, of the countries with higher murder rates than the U.S., have strict gun control laws.
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I can handle my moonshine, Wheeler. Vitamin-D is necessary for proper brain function, so it looks like you aren't getting enough sunshine.
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In above comments by the Republicans you have YET again the proof of what lunatics they have become, thanks to the lies and lies pouring out of Wall Street based right-wing Media, aka FAKE News. After all, FACTS:

1- Countries that have passed strict Gun Controls, such as Uk, Australia, Japan, etc. they have had ZERO to 1 Mass shooting over last 20 Years, this is vs on avg 1 Mass shooting per Year in USA under Repugs/Demo-rats, aka Tools of Wall Street. Here are some related FACTS:
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No Mass Shootings in Australia in 20 Years: How Did They Do It?

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/no-mass-shootings-australia-20-years-how-did-they-do-n597091

How murder and suicide figures plummeted in Australia after gun control laws were introduced

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/las-vegas-shooting-australia-gun-laws-control-stephen-paddock-2nd-amendment-nevada-firearm-a7980671.html

2- Strict Gun controls in these countries, was and is 100% backed by their
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Conservative parties.

3- US Media from right-wing lying Machines of ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC to Ultra right-wing lying Machine of Fox to Ultra lunatic right-wing lying Machines of TalkRadio and Web sites funded by the Wall Street EVIL, does not cover these FACTS, and instead spews out the Pyscho non-sense such as:
"Gun dont Kill People, People do"
and on top of that same bastards oppose Universal Socialized Healthcare (NHS), so People with Mental Health can get care then need, resulting in USA
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having one horrific Mass Shooting after another, resulting in USA having Death by Gun violence that is 10,000% worse than other developed Nations such as UK, resulting in Republican lunatics as you can see here and Trump rallies, etc.

And here is one more supporting FACT:

Japan has only Six gun deaths last Year, compared to 33,599 in the US. WHY?
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38365729

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WT, what are you doing? You are presenting facts to these Republicans! It wont do any good. They will just totally ignore the facts presented to them and instead will reply with a rant such as:
"Communist also took Guns away"
etc. non-sense. After all, they are being brain washed and have been brain washed by 100s of Billions of Wall Street Money/Media Cabal to ignore all facts, and instead have beliefs that only benefit Wall Street, MIC & Israel. Damn be the American People. Sad :(
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Friend, Australia violent crime victims: 28.6
Ranked 6th. 5% more than United States 27.3 which is Ranked 9th.
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comptu, where did you get that fact from?
Oh I am sorry, you are a Republican lunatic so you just pulled it out of your Ass, aka right-wing Media, aka Fake News.

So once again, and FACT this time. There has been ZERO, repeat ZERO, Mass Shootings in Australia in 20 Years since the Conservative party there passed strict Gun controls, Here:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/las-vegas-shooting-australia-gun-laws-control-stephen-paddock-2nd-amendment-nevada-firearm-a7980671.html
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Reporter, I know it may be a waste of time to try to present FACTS and reason with Republicans whom have been made lunatics by right-wing Media lying machinery of Wall Street, aka FAKE News. But we have the duty to get the FACTS out rather than be silent anymore. And OTN, all I can say thanks God for this non-profit Anoox that lets us do this, since Wall Street based Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc. censor when they want to Progressive ideas and facts.
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Adolf Hitler, Speech of May 1, 1927 - “We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” -- Adolf Hitler, Speech of May 1, 1927
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Marianland, what the hek does the Hitler Speech from May 1, 1927 have to do with passing sensible Gun controls that other developed Nations such as UK passed decades ago! How insane are you Republicans to say such psycho non-sense! After all, you do know that one the main countries, the 1st main country to fight Hitler was Britain, for you idiots that would be also UK, and UK passed Gun controls decades ago, as well as Government run Universal Socialized (NHS). So is UK Hitler to you?
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“Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who don't.” -- Anon

“This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!” -- Adolf Hitler

“We don't let them have ideas. Why would we let them have guns?” – Joseph Stalin
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World_Traveler You are so full of hate how do you expect anybody to listen to your rantings?
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Friend Reporter, since you asked, Road Crash Statistics. Nearly 1.3 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day world-wide. An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled. More than half of all road traffic deaths occur among young adults ages 15-44. In the US, over 37,000 people die in road crashes each year. Over 1,600 children under 15 years of age die each year. Nearly 8,000 people are killed involving drivers ages 16-20. This is according to ASIRT.
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Friends, I realize that you have a veil over your eyes and will not see truth. I do not speak on my own accord but have merely copied and pasted from Nation Master, Association for International Safe Travel, and Gun Control Just Facts among others. In 1976, Washington, D.C. passed a law prohibiting residents from possessing handguns & required all firearms in private homes be (1) kept unloaded and (2) rendered temporally inoperable; Murder went up. In 08, law was struck down and murder dropped.
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Look at the chart for yourself.
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp#crime_vulnerability
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Matthew 7:6 in Jesus's Sermon on the Mount:
"Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces."
We have all attempted to educate these heathens, but they just don't have the capacity to learn. Now it is more fun just to tease the Troll Triplets.
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Friends, I've kicked the dust off of my sandles and am moving on. I will not stoop to this level of behavior and will always try to elevate and treat people with kindness and respect. My last advice is for you all to try much harder to get along. Try considering others better than yourselves. It's a good way to start a journey towards maturity. Goodbye. I'm done on this topic.
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comptu,

I agree with you. These people would not know the meaning of the word civil, if it bit them on the ass.

What offends me as that many of them are constantly Bible-thumping, as if Jesus would support their non-compassion and selfishness. Also, as an agnostic, the constant references to religion and the Bible is highly offensive. Not everyone is a Christian, or should they be, or are they required to be.
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Over 60,000 people died in 2016 from drug overdoses, abortion is the biggest killer of black people in the U.S. and there are between 9,000 and 10,500 gun related murders annually.
Apparently WT, Reporter and the other trolls, don't care about drug users or seem to have something against black people.
The gun problem stems from skirting the law and then failing to punish offenders. Since we know that NRA members don't murder, their guidelines might help. Any application for a gun purchase...
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...or permit, where the applicant lied, is a federal offense and punishable by a prison term. START ENFORCING THE LAW!
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Thomat, MORON, we do care about drug overdoses, abortion, etc. and have proposed sensible solutions about these, such as Universal Socialized Healthcare which would greatly reduce these, which 100% of all Conservtative parties in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc. 100% agree with, which Republicans and right-wing Media in USA oppose calling it "Socialism", "Communism", etc. non-sense just as they/you call sensible Gun control to be "Socialism", "Communism", etc. non-sense.

So you see Republicans
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right-wing Wall Street based Media, aka FAKE News, are the cause of all the problems and misery of USA, from excessive drug overdoses, abortion, etc. to one mass shooting after another. And of course Obama Democrats are not much better, since they TOO failed to pass, heck did not even propose Universal Socialized Healthcare that 100% of all developed Nations have, they did not propose set aside pass Strict Gun controls, etc. sensible acts that rest of the Developed World has. WAKE UP.
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WT, you blithering bigoted idiot, the NHS will just make it easier for liberals and gvernment to kill more black babies. I have suspected all along that you minions are closet racists, now I know for sure.
Chicago's murder rate has skyrocketed, under strict gun laws, and the majority of the victims are black. It appears that your motivation to spread gun control all over the U.S., is that the number of black adult murders will grow exponentially. It is sad to see you promoting black genocide.
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Thom,

You right-wingers always get me the way you always use the "Black on black" crime argument to justify allowing whatever wacko who wants to own guns, to have one. Your so-called "logic" is idiotic, especially since both of the mass shooters were Caucasians.

Gun control is just common sense. However, I really doubt you know what that is.
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'"Black on black" crime' is your term Wheeler, not mine. You, racist haters, have outed yourselves here. You won't be happy until your fascist political far left-wing policies, like NHS, have killed off all minorities that you simply didn't like because of their color. NHS sounds like your version of Hitler's Final Solution.
Of course, you are against guns, you don't want real Americans to stop you.
Heil Wheeler.
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Thom,

You are such an ass hole! The sad thing is that you actually believe your own BS.
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Heil Wheeler, call me what you want, Nazi!. You showed yourself to be a racist on several levels. The real sad thing is that you CHOSE to be a racist and hater.
Liberals, like you are just one generation away from their sheet-wearing parents and hate is in their blood. Although you haven't YET shown any hatred for Jews and Hispanics, like you did against black people; I'm sure that isn't too far away.

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To put politics into the issue is not the answer: both administrations Democratas and Republicans have done nothing at all. Yes there should be a more strict control of heavy weapons, specially a person with mental problems or police background should be left out of guns for life.

But churchs and congregations should think of being more carefull with who they let in. There should be more control of men who treat women badly or out of respect of the Bible. If a man keeps on treatening their wives, girlfriends or daughters like mud, they should be asked out of a church. Mental patients who stop their medication because they think "God heal me", should be make to continue taking their pills until their doctors certified to do so.

More responsability of the members of the church should be asked. We should remember as followers of Yeshua our responsability to care for each other. We should be involved in the lives of everyone on the church, and be ready to act upon sudden changes.
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This just isn't so. As long as the center (Republicans & Libertarian) keeps up its fight, against those who would strip Americans of their ability to defend themselves and others, we will have a chance.
In France, just one civilian armed with a gun, could have stopped an Islamic terrorist from killing 86 people and the injuring 458 others, using a TRUCK.
Repressive gun laws favor the criminal and people not having defensive weapons, on their person, is how the Texas church massacre was accomplished.
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The liberalism of our criminal justice system and not following the current gun laws creates the problem. Luckily armed private citizens were available to end it...this time.
No NRA member has ever committed such an act, while those who commit such acts are almost universally Democrats or liberals.
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Thomat the Moran, France has had 1 Mass Shootings in last 20 Years, while USA has 1 Mass Shootings per Month. What part of these Horrific NUMBERS doesn't your Fox Brain Washed brain not get!

2nd, strict Gun Laws that would STOP these daily massacre of American People, were put in place in UK, Australia, etc. by the Conservative parties, repeat Conservative parties, these countries. Which FACT is instant proof of what SCAM Repugs and right-wing Media been playing on US.
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Mass killing were done not by Conservatives but by rotten Socialists, Communists and other terrorists. Christian Conservatives are peaceful people.
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Marianland,

Are you kidding? Christian conservatives have been responsible for as much death and destruction as any other group, mostly in the name of religion.

I seem to remember a couple of doctors who performed abortions, a legal medical procedure, being murdered outside of family planning clinics. If I recall correctly, which I do, both of the murderers were self-described Christian conservatives.

Christianity is anything but a benign religion. Millions have been killed by Christians.
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You forgot that Christian kings saved Europe from Islam terrorism. Mass Murdering Socialists are children of father of all lies Satan. Full of hate. Most famous Socialists: Hitler, Stalin and Mao.
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Marianland, you are another poster child for what PSYCHOS Republicans/Trump in USA have become and are.

So keep saying that:
"You forgot that Christian kings saved Europe from Islam terrorism"

This means you are so brain dead that You think there are Christian kings in Europe today, fighting "Islam terrorism" which they are not.

And the FAWK does that have to do with average 1 Mass Shooting in USA per Month, vs ZERO Mass shootings in UK over last 20 Years since they have ban on Guns!
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Marionland,

FYI, the Crusaders (who were Christians) slaughtered the entire city of Jerusalem during the Crusades, despite the fact that many of its inhabitants were also Christians, Jews, and innocent Muslim women and children. They didn't give a damn. They just killed everyone. Look it up in the history books.

Also FYI, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were all atheists. Also, they were not socialists.

By the way, you talk like an idiot.
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Under 0bama we had 162 mass murders, while we had 20 under "Dubya", 23 under "Slick Willy", 12 under "Pappa Bush" and 11 under President Reagan.
Try to understand the UK and Australia have no Bill of Rights. In each country, a citizen is only as free as the government allows on that day.
Austalian citizens did not give up their firearms the government forced them to turn them in.
You can count on one hand the murders by conservatives. Murder of any type is the liberal way of fixing a problem.
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Friend, regarding UK and crime per 1000, 109.96 Ranked 4th. 3 times more than United States 41.29 Ranked 22nd. Again, a nation with fewer people, less guns and yet crime is higher. There might be a connection between increased rates of crime in direct proportion to those unable to defend themselves. If someone wants to kill people, a gun is not necessary. A car, bus, a truck, a plane or whatever will be used. Bad guys do bad things regardless of laws.
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“We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” -- Adolf Hitler, Speech of May 1, 1927
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Friend, in a word, yep.
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https://cf.factcheck.org/2012/12/gun-rhetoric-vs-gun-facts/
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Socialists are champions of mass murder with over 300 millions of Murders. Leading Socialist mass murderers are Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Castro, Che and others. Socialist North Korea is current best example how Socialism work for people.
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Communists behind the former Iron and Bamboo Curtains--from the Czech Republic to the Peoples' Republic of China--have never been defeated. They have only retreated to take a deep breath to acquire Western technology and develop new tactics toward the conquest of the world.
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Exactly Marianland, unfortunately, the trolls WT, Reporter and Wheeler are either on drugs, the simple-minded creatures of the liberal media, the victims of left-wing child abuse or most likely all of the above.
We can only keep offering them the truth; pray for their speedy healing and prosecute the corrupt left-wing media, including the politicians and judges they own, who have made them such brain-dead parrot-like zombies .
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Friends, last word on this topic from me. I am a bit dismayed at the utter lack of maturity and total disregard for common courtesies such as respect and genuine mutual concern for each other. It appears to me that you merely want to hear yourselves and somehow think that by labeling people and calling them names somehow adds credit to your opinion. But it doesn't. It is merely childish & unworthy of your abilities. You'd know this if you would only use them. I won't tear you but will lift you.
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comptu, conversation has certainly devolved since the people from RealNewsPost.org first showed up.
For myself, I admit that I have lowered myself (not fully) to their level, to teach them the truth.
You seem to have gotten their attention and they badly need to know the facts. Don't leave when you have done so much good.
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Once again for the Republican lunatics, the issue is:
We had another mass shooting: this one 26 Killed in Christian Church in Texas. This comes 1 Month after 59 Americans killed in mass shooting in Vegas. And why is that Trump/Republicans doing nothing to Stop such mass shootings?

The fact that they are doing Nothing, is proof they are the True Enemy within.
What can be done to stop such shootings? For the Republican lunatics, just look at what Conservative parties in UK, Australia, ,etc. did.
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They passed strict Gun Bans, as a result of which they have not had a Mass Shooting in 20 Years.

Here:

How murder and suicide figures plummeted in Australia after gun control laws were introduced

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/las-vegas-shooting-australia-gun-laws-control-stephen-paddock-2nd-amendment-nevada-firearm-a7980671.html

Again, NOTE: it is not the "Socialist" or "Communist" or "Hitler" that passed their strict Gun bans but their Conservative parties did.
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Reporter, to talk with these Republicans made lunatics by the psychotic non-sense that pours out of Fox and right-wing Media is breath taking.
After all, somehow to these lunatics passing Strict Gun controls, as the Conservative parties, repeat Conservative parties, in UK, Australia, etc. have done, results in these lunatics quoting "Hitler".
And then to add to this HATE filled lives of lies they live in, they call People such as us who support these LIFE SAVING policies to be "Full of Hate"!
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"Trump/Republicans doing nothing to Stop such mass shootings?"
Totally untrue; who do you think stopped the bad guys in Texas and New York? That's right legal citizen gun owners.
What would you have done in France; wait for the truck to run out of fuel?
Reporter, you and your fellow minions, need to listen, not comment or hurl insults at your betters.
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Thomat, we have had 1 Truck attack in entire history of French Republic.
And you also had a Truck attack in NYC few days ago.
But such Truck based attacks are beyond rare, well 1 in case of US & France.
However, Murders by Guns in USA are at epidemic levels, which of course would be case in any country that had the same insane Gun laws as in USA.
So the way you Stop Gun violence and mass shootings is not have everyone Armed, as of course you cannot in US, but Ban Guns as is case in UK, FR, etc

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To the World Traveler. I do not believe that any country will admit a number of murders they have had. As for her in the United States wherever citizens do not have guns that seemed to be where most of the murders are committed, such a sin Chicago. We the people need to protect ourselves from such poor excuses for human beings and citizens of the greatest nation God ever gave us.
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imtee, you make NO sense at all!
Are you implying that UK or Australia whom have had ZERO mass shooting in 20 Years, since their Conservative parties passed strict Gun laws within 2 months of their worse mass shootings 20 Years ago, that these Countries, that is UK and Australia are:
"not admitting to number of murders they have had"???
Are you Republicans totally bat crazy insane to be saying such a thing!
if not, what the hek are you saying!
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TD, this guys bat crazy tirade which you have well fleshed out, is yet another demo of mind destruction that right-wing Wall Street Media, aka FAKE News, has brought upon American People. It really is breath taking the crazy SH*T they say!
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TD & WT, once again you show yourselves to be ignorant trolls created by the corrupt, corporate fascist left-wing propagandist media, pushing to disarm and render U.S. citizens helpless.
All the while Comrade Bernie and his commissars poison the people's minds with propaganda, meant only to weaken and control the people. The left would love to see the U.S. citizens disarmed and under the control of an NHS to cull unwanted minority populations and no Bill of Rights to save them.
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“This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!” -- Adolf Hitler

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