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Posted On: 2017-10-31 18:44:02
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What can be done about Terror attacks with Trucks as in New York city?

As most of you know, today there was a Terror attack in New York city by a Muslim Immigrant from Uzbekistan, where 8 were murdered. And none of them died from bullets! The murderer used a Truck, so it is now time to be talking about banning Trucks because they can be used as a mass murder weapon. A few months ago something similar happened in France. If we had banned Trucks after that incident, at least SIX people would be alive today! How many more people must die before we finally get around to banning Trucks?

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This is really stupid question, which actually is posed by the psychos on right-wing Media from slime bags such as Rush Limbaugh, Fox, etc.. for the purpose of arguing that hey: "We don't ban Trucks when used to Kill people with. So why should we ban Guns when used to Kill people with". Answer to which should be obvious. But given what lunatics Republicans and right-wing Media have become, somehow the obvious answers to this question alludes them. Th real question is how is it possible that 58 Americans were killed in Vegas in yet another worse mass shooting record, and Republicans & Democrats have done nothing about that!
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Yes indeed, Killing of 58 Americans in Vegas by a White Christian, using 20+ High powered Assault Weapons, brings no action by Repugs & Dems. While in UK, Australia, when they had 1 similar mass shooting 20 Years ago they passed strict Gun laws after which they have had ZERO mass shooting. However, the killing of 8 in New York City by a Muslim guy, brings immediate call for action by Trump and right-wing Media. So indeed it is astonishing that American people keep falling fro these Con Jon on US
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Reporter, U know as bad as it is that: Killing of 58 Americans in Vegas by a White Christian, using 20+ High powered Assault Weapons, brings no action by Repugs & Dems, it is much worse as we have 30,000+ Americans KILLED per Year by Christians in this country, due to insane Gun laws that Repugs & Dems have put in place. But hey, if a Muslim Kills a French, or UK or God forbid Israeli citizens, then Trump/Repugs & Dems, will call for immediate Multi-Trillion War in response.
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GT, it truly is breath taking what is happening in USA. Or what is not happening to correct all the problems of this country such as one mass shooting after another,
such as lack of Healthcare for 100-Million+ Americans, while Trump/Repukes and right-wing Media are calling for Nuclear War on North Korea. Really really sick :(
And meanwhile Wall Street is hitting one record high after another! I guess it is celebrating the Misery of American Main Street via their boy Trump_Obama.

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You don't banned trucks or guns, you banned people. It's time to discriminate against the middle east, they're not peaceful people. They're violent people living undercover as peaceful people, and they need to be exposed! They came to America for all the wrong reasons. Every Mosque should be shut down and they should not have any rights! We are at war with Muslims = ISIS! There are 900 Islam Muslims on the NYPD, anyone of them can look the other way any day of the week. New Yorkers are not safe, until, Homeland security cleans out our government of Islamic Muslims. There is too much corruption inside our government, starting with the Democrats, The Clinton Foundation sold us out!!! Let's talk about how these people cut off the heads of Americans, does anybody care about that? They will hit New York City again, ISIS is relentless, they know our government is corrupt starting with the Governor Andrew Cuomo and the NYC Mayor Bill De Blasio. BTW, I think his wife is a Muslim too!
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WOW! Thanks for proving yet again what brain washing right-wing Media, aka Fake News, has done to so many Millions of Americans.

FACTS:
1- This guy was from Uzbekistan, which is the Country that USA uses to run the NEVER Ending Afghanistan War. So Uzbekistan is a main ally of USA, in the never ending War on Terror. So this guy would have NEVER been in USA if it was not for Trump_Obama_Bush never Ending War in Afghanistan .

2- Uzbekistan is not even in Middle East, here:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Middle_Eastern_countries_by_population

3- ISIS is the result of the US War on Iraq/Libya/etc. by deposing their Secular regimes, so US Wars lead to ISIS. And you want more of such Wars! Really!!

4- If it was not for the Ban on Assault Weapons that New York state has, which Republicans and right-wing Media oppose, this tragedy would have been much worse

5- We just had a FAR WORSE such Killing of Americans which was the 59 Killed in Vegas and 500+ injured
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because Nevada, thanks to Republicans and right-wing Media NRA, does not have Ban on Assault Weapons. And the Killer in Las Vegas was a White Christian and Multi-Millionaire to boot. And what have Trump/Republicans & right-wing Media done to make sure another Mass killing of Americans as in Vegas does not happen? NOTHING.

So based on above FACTS, the real threat we face from creation of ISIS due to Iraq War, to no sensible Ban on Assault Weapons, etc. are the Republicans & right-wing Media
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WT, it is really astonishing that non of the facts that you listed above, is provided by our so called Media! I mean I watched CBS, CNN, MSNBC, Fox, etc. and none of them stated, so far, that Uzbekistan, where this guy is coming from, is the Country that USA uses as the base for supplying the NEVER Ending Afghanistan War! NONE of them has stated this. And of course based on this fact NONE of them has stated that if US was not waging this never ending War on Afghanistan, then this guy would not
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have likely carried this horrific attack against US, since as this guy being from Uzbekistan has likely many family in Afghanistan, thus the *stan, and so was very likely taking revenge for hims family killed in Afghanistan due to never ending Obama_Trump_Bush War on this poor country 10,000 Miles from USA. Example: in this US Strike on alone 28 Civilians were killed

https://www.voanews.com/a/united-nations-says-twenty-eight-afghan-civilians-killed-united-states-airstrikes/4010466.html
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I'm an American, I have one option for middle eastern Islamic muslims, pack your bags and buy a one way ticket home, close your Mosques you don't pray you kill Americans and anyone who does not agree with Sharia Law. America is a Christian country, there is no room for your way of life. Americans changed your name from Muslims to MURDERS. I can't stand to pass Mosques,it reminds me of all the Americans that died at Islam's hands,all the Americans that were alive as they got their heads cut off
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TWN, once again, you Moron:

1- Uzbekistan is not in Middle East. Again here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Middle_Eastern_countries_by_population

2- I hate Islam as I hate all religions from 2000 Years ago and would love to see all Mosques, Synagogues, etc. all shut down and thrown out of USA

3- How about the 59 Americans Killed and 500+ injured, by a White Christian Multi Millionaire, due to NO Ban on Assault Weapons that Republican lunatics and right-wing Media oppose? Which

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is a drop in the Ocean of 30,000+ Americans KILLED per Year due to the insane Gun laws that Republican lunatics and right-wing Media support.

WAKE Up that the real threat to US, is from the Republicans/Dems and right-wing Media, whom are:
1- Behind never ending Afghan War that has KILLED 2000+ US soldiers
2- Wasted $2-Trillion of our Money
3- Behind Iraq War that has KILLED 5000+ US soldiers + 1 Million Iraqi civilians
4- Insane Gun laws in US that are killing 30,000+ Americans per Year
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WT, man you really set that Republican lune in his place. Good job man.
Yes, it is very telling and sad that these so called Americans don't even know that Uzbekistan is not in Middle East. And further they do not know that Uzbekistan is the epitome-center of US War effort in Afghanistan. So really the blame for this tragedy in NYC is on the shoulders of Repugs & Dems for carrying on this War for ever.
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exactly brothers. Americans Killed in USA by non-Muslim Christians such as in Vegas massacre, brings no action. I mean for GOD sake 59 Americans were killed in Vegas and 500+ Horribly injured and there is just about no discussion or call for actions about this horrific event, nothing to make sure another like it wont happen in few more days given that we have a mass shooting in USA about once a week! Really amazing.
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The primary reason that we don't have sensible gun control in this country is because the National Rifle Association (NRA) is one of the biggest lobbies in Washington DC and the state capitals there is. They have succeeded in buying off not only the Republicans, but the Democrats as well. As long as the NRA is allowed to exercise such influence, we may never have done control in the United States unless we elect officials who have no financial ties to the NRA.

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solve for brain damage. screen SPECT scan. this guy has limited blood flow to frontal lobe and inflammation. most violent people have brain damage. add sensors to the trucks to detect body heat, auto brakes and disables engine if sensor doesn't work. trucks, guns, and tool or machine doesn't kill people. people kill people! Evolution is a religion. Democrats fight emotional/ vaporware enemies and attempt to limit effective tools. *****
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Are you kidding? Are you and see just suggesting that betting trucks will solve the problem of terrorist truck attacks?

This "solution" is impractical because trucks are actually a very useful vehicle for transporting things that you cannot fit in a car. For example, lots of people rent a truck because they cannot afford the price of a mover. So, they simply rent a truck from a rental agency.

Does it ever occur to you that by enacting such ridiculous legislation, you are basically allowing the terrorists to win? One of the main goals of terrorist organizations is to disrupt the daily lives of the people in the country that you are attacking. By banning trucks, you are allowing that terrorist organization to achieve one of their goals. Do you really think caving into terrorists by disrupting our society is a way to win?
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This guy is playing one of the classic Con Jobs of the right-wing Media, which is to Spin a news story for their right-wing Agenda, rather than make lives of American People better. In this case, the Con is: "Look there was a mass murder, Terror attack, using a Truck. And you dont see Liberals calling for banning Trucks, so then why are Liberals are calling for banning Guns when there is a mass killing by Guns"

Answer to which Con Job is already well provided by other members below.
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2 weeks 1 day ago
But to summarize:

1- Trucks are used in 3 such acts of Murder/Terror. To be exact: this in NYC, the one in Nice and then one in Berlin.

2- OTOH, Guns and Assault Weapons were used in 99.9999% of Murders in USA.
And in fact as others have noted, if NYC did not have Ban on Assault Weapons, which it does, then this tragic act in NYC would have had many more Killed, as was the case in Las Vegas few Weeks back because Nevada does not have Ban pn Assault Weapons as NYC does.
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World_Traveler,

mmerlinn is one of the right-wing trolls who infest this website to spread right-wing propaganda.

I have seen enough of his garbage to recognize it for what it is; garbage.

Good looking out though! Thank you!

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Whats your point? That we should Ban all Trucks used in 0.01% mass killings?
Or should we not Ban Assault Weapons that are used in 99.99% of all mass killings?
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Well be thankful New York City has Ban on Assault Weapons, or otherwise this horrendous tragedy in NYC would have been much worse, as per Las Vegas massacre where 59 Americans were Killed due to the killer there having access to Assault Weapons since Assault Weapons there like in most of US are not banned.
So the same Assault Weapons Ban that Republicans and right-wing Media, aka Fake News, oppose, SAVED the lives of Dozens and Dozens of People in NYC, because this Uzebki Psycho had no access to Assault Weapons.
Think about that.
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1st, I did not know that New York City has Ban on Assault Weapons.
So now can you imagine how much WORSE the carnage would have been in NYC if this dirt ball had access to Assault Weapons!!!
And to think that Republicans and right-wing Media in US, oppose Ban on Assault Weapons which most likely just saved the lives of many in NYC, as such Ban if it went into USA country wide, would save the lives of 10s of 1000s of Americans per Year.
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You know what is astonishing, is that I watched CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC & Fox; and NONE of them mentioned the fact that you have listed above. Which is this tragic Mass Murder, aka Terror, in New York City would have been much worse, if it was not for the fact that NYC has a Ban on Assault Weapons. Instead all you heard was the fact that the guy was a Muslim and which Mosque he went to and how wonderful the victims were. Everything but dealing with the fact that Assault Weapon Ban Worked.

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1st, This so called Terrorist came from Uzbekistan. Uzbekistan is the Country that USA uses to run the NEVER Ending Afghanistan War, a War which has resulted in Killing of Countless of Afghan Civilians. So take the despicable tragic killings in New York city and Multiply them with 1000s of Civilians Killed. So you have the Afghanistan War under Obama_Bush_Trump to really blame for this guy being here and other reasons. Here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/29/opinion/americas-uzbekistan-problem.html
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/17/civilian-deaths-in-afghanistan-war-at-record-high-says-un

With the above said, these tragic Killings in NYC by this slime bag would have been 10 Times higher, if NYC did not have Bans on Assault Weapons, which Republicans and right-wing Media oppose.
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Reporter, Excellent points. Which of course you will never hear from right-wing Media, aka Fake News. So just think after the Vegas shooting by a White Christian were 59 Americans were Killed and 500+ injured, due to NO Ban on Assault Weapons in Nevada, Trump and Fox spewed:
"Lets not Politicize this tragedy in Vegas"
but after this tragedy in NYC, Trump and Fox have already spewed all sort of racial hate-mongering, even though this guy is here from Uzbekistan due to War Trump supports!
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'I guess it's not too soon to politicize this tragedy, in New York City, as per Trump tweets. Feast your Eyes:

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/01/i-guess-its-not-too-soon-to-politicize-a-tragedy-sen-chuck-schumer-says-in-response-to-trump-tweets.html
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Reporter, that is another excellent fact to bring forward here.
That is this Terrorist came from Uzbekistan, which Uzbekistan is the epi-center of US War on Afghanistan. So if Obama Trump had Ended the War on Afghanistan, rather keep running it, then this guy would have likely never came to USA.

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