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Posted On: 2017-09-25 09:07:30
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What you think about professional athletes not standing for national anthem?

Good day everyone. I know I've been away for a minute, but I would like to know how you all feel about the recent comments and actions concerning professional athletes not standing for the national anthem? Do you believe they are disrespecting the flag, yes or no? I am asking because I as a Veteran of the US Army MP Corpse and as a Christian I may have different views than others, but I'd like to hear from you and let's all respect and appreciate each other's views.
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I believe that we all get hung up on actions and words that don't really have any real impact beyond a sizzling headline or news report on the television. To put it another way, I don't kneel during the national anthem. I also put my hand on my heart while it's being performed as well. I thank our Veterans for their service. Regardless of what some overpaid athlete or rich actor/actress says or does, it won't change the level of respect I have for this country and the people that live within it. This all becomes easier to accept and understand when you realize that you define your path and interactions with the world; they're not defined by others. A kneeling football athlete is proudly displaying his right as an American to demonstrate peacefully and I choose to ignore them. Would that athlete continue to kneel in protest if no one paid attention?
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You can really blame Fox and other orifices of right-wing Media about all that is WRONG with USA.
They really are the Enemy within, from them spinning the Police Killings of Americans into "why is the athlete Kneeling" to the mass KILLING of Americans in Vegas to "how wrong where the athletes for Kneeling against Police mass shooting of the American People", rather than that the insane Gun policies in USA that Republicans and right-wing Media support, are behind both of these issues. For a funny way of looking at these horrible facts check out:



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This would be funny if it was not so sadly true.
You know it is really amazing how just about any truth coming out of US Media, vs the Fake News aka right-wing lying Media, comes from the comedians, either this Daily show, or Colbert, or Seth Myers, etc. Really telling.
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Skinzoomer,

It also bothers me that some people make no distinction between the Daily Show and other real newscasts. Some people actually pull themselves into thinking they watch the news just because they tune into the Daily Show. In some ways I find this rather disturbing because it shows that many American people don't distinguish between entertainment and news.

Of course, that doesn't help that many networks now put their newscasts in the entertainment division of their stations.
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FOX and talk radio are the domain of the pro-constitutional, pro-American centrists.
Since the right is anti-institutional and, what we call, anarchists, they will never have TV shows or radio stations.
The far and semi-far left on the other hand control the message of Comedy Central, MSNBC, CNN and the rest of the corrupt corporate media that appears to be so popular among the minions.
Even you guys should be smart enough to know your right from your left.
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1 week 5 days ago
Thom,

To call Fox News centrist is totally misleading, but you already know that I suspect.

The corporate media, is just another capitalist enterprise that probably will never tell about anything. That includes MSNBC or CNN. Comedy Central is a comedic parody, not real news.
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Suspect what you want, Wheeler. Unlike you, I value, tell and stand by the truth.
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TOS, anyone with an IQ above a Cockroach, already knows that outlets like Fox, CNBC, Wall Street Journal, TalkRadio, etc. are utter complete wall to wall right-wing lying machines.

So to see what a right-wing lying Machine entire Wall Street based Media are, take the so called Liberal Media of MSNBC, by consider the fact that: MSNBC has not told the American People that all Conservative parties, repeat the Conservative parties, in Europe, Canada, Australia, including Israel
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the beloved Nation of TEAPublicans Obama Democrats and right-wing Media, etc. are all 100% for their Government run Universal Socialized Health Care (NHS).

And moreover tell American People WHY they are all 100% for their NHS.

Because if MSNBC did that, then that would be instant proof of:
What utter complete lunatics TEAPublicans are for opposing NHS and What FRAUD Obama Democrats are for not even proposing NHS
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And why is it that all Conservative parties, in Europe, Canada, Israel, Australia, Japan, etc. 100% for their NHS?

Because NHS gives health care to all the People of their Country, FREE for the Taxes that they Pay, while cut, repeat cut, health care spending by 50%.

So based on this FACT alone, one can have Irrefutable proof of what a right-wing Lying Machinery entire Wall Street Media/Cabal, from ABC to CNN to MSNBC and lets not even talk about Fox, etc. are.
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ThinkDeep,

There is absolutely no reason why people in the United States should not have as good, if not better, access to good quality healthcare. The primary reason we don't have it here in the United States is because the healthcare "industry" and big Pharma want to continue controlling everything related to healthcare in this country. The only thing they really care about, like most corporations, is making a profit no matter at what cost.

The mainstream media never has represented the mass
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TD, you share the same opinions as everyone, who doesn't have "an IQ above a Cockroach".
If you minions were any dumber you would back a single-payer health service, Hillary Clinton and gun control.
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Thom,

Just because you may articulate the same point over and over again, doesn't make it true. Your "controllers" that the GOP may have programmed you to think that if you tell the same old tired bullshit numerous times, it magically becomes true.

It's too bad you can't break free from your "program" for a few minutes, and have an original thought for a change. It's too bad that your way of thinking is indicative of your drinking too much of the conservative Kool-Aid.
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Ignorant little robots, like you accusing others of being programmed is laughable. Is that the Kool-Aid your group swills out of their tin foiled hats, in your Mommy's basement?
Even your ignorance is clichéd. Why not join a group where you might make a real difference. There are UFO and Sasquatch groups all over the internet. With the myths that your group believes in, I am sure those two subjects would be right up your, rather dimly-lit, alley.
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Thom,

You use every "troll -like" response like "mommy's basement" or" tinfoil hats", and you actually wonder why people think you are a troll? You use the same language as every other troll I've ever seen, So don't be surprised when I call you on it, TROLL.

This is my last response to this troll. Remember people, PLEASE DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

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As an astonishing example of the Upside Down World that the right-wing lying Media has created in USA, listen to this guy Rush Limbaugh and Hannety, interview one another, as to what the real meaning of the athletes not standing for national anthem are! They completely do not deal with the issue behind these athletes demonstrating, which is the horrendous state of Police brutality, shootings, in USA, as per FACT that: "Police in USA shoot more People dead in 1 Month that Police in UK shoot Brits dead in 95 Years"
Instead they run this continuous SCAM on US, that this is about the "Leftist Media..." rubbish. And they do this on issue after issue, that is SPIN it from real facts into a psychotic hate-filled World, resulting in People who watch them being utter complete hateful lunatics by now. And keep in mind that these right-wing lying Machines, are backed by 100s of Billions of Wall Street Money.
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TD, thanks for sharing this Video man. It really is a prime example of the total Mind FAWK Job that the right-wing Media, via Wall Street dark Money, been playing on American People and astonishingly they are still doing in the Internet age where we can expose their lies via such sites as this anoox. To be exact, notice that in this Video, these FAWKs state that:
"Leftist Media wants to make America Progressive"
Progressive is GOOD! Because the alt to that is:
Stagnant or Regressive.
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So only the True Enemy of a Nation would be against being "Progressive", which has been and is a KEY part of the right-wing lying Media effort on making American People Dumb and well not Progressive, which means "Stagnant or Regressive".

And these bastards are on the air spewing this mis-information and non-sense from 100s of different Media sources, from TV to Radio to the Web sites such as Brietbart that is backed by the darkest of True EVIL Wall Street Money called Mercers.
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In case, here are some examples of the TRUE Info War that these Wall Street Billionaire EVIL are playing on US:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage

http://www.businessinsider.com/bannon-mercer-meeting-2017-8

https://www.alternet.org/right-wing/jane-mayer-robert-mercer

So yes My good friend, some Truly EVIL People such as these Mercers, but there are many more of them, waging (Info) War on US.
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Reporter, absolutely True my friend. And what you need to realize, what People need to realize, the same Wall Street DARK Money that is behind these psychotic lying Machines of Rush Limbaugh, Hannety, Brietbart, Fox, etc., is also behind Google, etc. And I prove it to you. Go to Google and search for:
"mainstream media is"
You will not find articles proving that "mainstream media is" is right-wing lying Media as proven by: realnewspost.org
but you find at the top are articles by Brietbart and other
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right-wing Media sources, selling the Super SCAM that Mainstream Media has a Left-Wing Bias. Go ahead Google it, and feast your Eyes on how Google feeds people the right-wing Media bias and lies, resulting in lying buffoons such as Rush Limbaugh, Hannety having National Air times backed by Multi Billion Dollars organizations.
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ThinkDeep,

Most major corporations, like Google, or any other large corporations that operates a search engine tends to rank right-wing websites and news sources above more progressive media.

The reason for that is quite simple, it's economics. Most progressive/liberal media outlets simply do not have as much money to spend on SEO (search engine optimization) as more powerful conservative publications.

Progressive/liberal media outlets have always had less money than right-wing media outlets.
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Wheeler, you could give Google that pass. Or you could also conclude that because the right-wing Media such as Fox, CNBC, Rush, Breitbart, etc. are funded by the same Wall Street Billionaire Cabal that are behind Google, FB, Hollywood, etc., such as GoldMan Sachs, that Google is loading search for "Main Stream Media is" with the lies that it is "Leftist Liberal Media", where of course we have Mountain of FACTS that Main Stream Media is the right-wing lying Media. After all, if Main Stream Media
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was Liberal Media, was anything but right-wing lying Media, aka Fake News, then:

1- USA would not be engaged in War after War, as our Northern Neighbor Canada is not

2- USA would have Government run Universal Socialized Healthcare (NHS), something so essential for well being of a Nation that all Developed Nations have it, including Israel the beloved Nation of Republicans, Democrats & the right-wing Media

3- USA would not be giving $200-Billion in FREE Military to Richer Europe

etc.
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TD, exactly. The fact of the matter is that We the American People are under attack, really under occupation, by a True Enemy within, and their Key weapon against US is their control of the Media being a right-wing lying Media, aka Fake News, the ultimate example of which is Fox news that spews all that EVIL and WRONG upon US. And the shooting of 600 Americans in Vegas is another reminder of this, which shooting Fox is saying "lets not politicize", while they
politicize a shooting by a Muslim.
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smallBizOwner_123,

It's a well-known fact that Fox News is a right-wing controlled propaganda machine, that is not to be believed nor taken seriously by anyone with any sense.
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Wheeler61, this fact is well known to many People, the thinking people such as us, but the fact is, the SAD SAD fact is, that many Millions of Americans, specially older ones, get their so called News, aka right-wing Media lies aka Fake News aka Upside DOWN of reality, from Fox. And many Wall Street based establishments, from top Hotels to Gyms etc. play Fox as their main so called News channels on 24/7 basis at their lobby, etc.
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Skinzoomer,

I totally understand what you're saying and I agree with you 100%. Fox News is shoved down our throats at every level. I have also noticed that Fox News is the default TV station for many waiting rooms, and lobbies.
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Reporter, you shock me! You have been schooled on every single fallacious argument that you have ever made here.
If, what you say about the Republicans dumbing down the population, they would have made you their poster boy/girl/it (choose one), by now.
No one here knows so many falsehoods about American, society, politics or history or slavishly believes them so much. Now you insist that progressivism is a good thing for America. Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber...WOW!
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Thom,

More sanctimonious bullshit from a holier than thou right winger! People like you, who run around with their noses in the air, are lucky that they don't trip because they never look at the ground and see the real world.
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I realize Wheeler, that your feelings of inferiority to many in this string must hurt your little ego, but backing the anti-American cause makes you look moronic, not heroic. Somebody had to tell you. Once you move out of Mommy's basement, find a job and find your own place in the world you will feel better about yourself. You will then feel no need to lash out against the truth and those who tell it.
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Thom,

You call me it adequate yet you insist on continuing this verbal penis waving contest and continuing to be sanctimonious and self-righteous while doing so. You are an idiot, plain and simple.
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An "idiot" that looks down, at the likes of you, as beneath labels. When I use the words stupid or ignorant to describe you and the other minions, take it as a compliment. Others might be considered "off the chart" intellectually, you folks never made it TO the chart.
You react poorly to the constant schooling that you get here, so let me give you this advice: crawl back into the protection of http://realnewspost.org/ and seal off the entrance behind you. Let this stupidity die where it started.
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Thom,

This is my last month to a condescending, holier than thou, conservative troll. Remember people, DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.
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Make it your last moment. You have made no contributions, told no truths, righted no wrongs here, so just go away. You and the minion strain have beaten the drum, for the aberrant, criminal left to no avail. You spread your lies and weren't believed, so leave with your tail between your legs - a failure.

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"Men don't kneel down to win a battle. Men kneel down to show submission. Men kneel down to get their heads chopped off. Men kneel down so that other men can stomp them into the dirt. Men kneel down to give each other head. Real men stand and fight. Real men stand up to their opponents. Real men won't take a knee for any other man and call it a protest. Real men love their country." (****)
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"Men kneel down to give each other head" WOW! Is there any limit to you Republican lunatic talk!

Men kneel down to propose to a Woman to marry them.
Men kneel down to talk to their Children.

So Men kneeling down is not the issue. The issue is WHY did that NFL Player kneel down? Which was to protest Police brutality in USA, which is absolutely the case, given the fact that Police in USA shoot more People dead in 1 Month that Police in UK shoot Brits dead in 95 Years!!!
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Since obviously you are watching the Ultra Right-wing lying machines of Wall Street from Fox to Rush Limbaugh, etc., rat holes to not know these facts, here:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/us-police-shot-more-people-dead-last-month-than-british-officers-did-in-95-years-a6769316.html
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LOL, the LIAR is back again. I have NEVER watched Rushy. Obviously you DO watch him, but of course your cannot understand whatever he is saying. And is it IMPOSSIBLE for me to watch Fox or any other media outlet that you own. That ALONE shows how out of touch you are.
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Well Fox and other organs of the Ultra right-wing Media, have been running segment after segment in support of Trump for saying that: "Kneeling down during the anthem is an insult etc...", which is exactly what you have repeated in your answer. So to say that you do not watch Fox or listen to the psychos on Talkradio such as Rush, yet you have parroted their non-stop non-sense in your answer above, is the real tell about where you get your info from.
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Moreover, as Reporter has noted, the real issue is not these athletes kneeling during the anthem, which is a most polite, respectful and benign way that you could demonstrate a point. But the real point is why they were kneeling, what was the point they were making, which is we have a very bad case of Police brutality and using deadly force in USA, which fact is absolutely made as per the figures that "Police in USA shoot more People dead in 1 Month that Police in UK do in 95 Years".
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BP, exactly. issue is "not these athletes kneeling during the anthem", which really is most polite way to demonstrate a point. The real issues are:

1- What they are protesting? Which is Police using excessive deadly force in USA. As per the NUMBERS provided.
2- How Trump and right-wing nuts are using "kneeling during the anthem" to distract from real issue. In particular that we have Police using excessive deadly force in USA because of insane Guns laws that we have in USA supported by GOP
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And that we have many many other horrible problems in USA, compared to other developed Nations such as UK, such as "Police in USA shoot more People dead in 1 Month that Police in UK do in 95 Years", such as:
1- State of Healthcare in USA which is WORSE among all Developed Nations while we spend 50% MORE on Healthcare
2- Our Cities flooding like 3rd World countries, since Republi-Cons and Demo-RATS have not invested our Money in our People and Cities and instead wasted it on War after War
etc.
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Reporter,

I would agree with your statement about Democrats and Republicans wasting money on warfare, when they should be spending it on doing something good for people in this country like providing healthcare, providing housing, eliminating the criminals on Wall Street who are the "shadow government" of this entire country, and feeding the numerous people in this country who are suffering from malnutrition.
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Reporter,

They are protesting the fact that racism is alive and well in the police forces of the United States. Whether you choose to believe it or not, racial profiling actually does exist in this country. I've seen it myself on a number of occasions.

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I was just listening to Trump talking on this issue with prime minister of Spain in attendance, and he said:
"Many Americans have died for this Country and the flag, so for some athletes to kneel during the anthem is un-American and must be punished, etc."
And this is how most of the Main Stream media, aka right-wing Media, have spun this story. When the issue is NOT the Athlete not standing for national anthem, but that he was protesting Police brutality in USA, which is a fact. Given the fact that more Americans are shot dead in typical Month by Police in USA than are shot every 100 Years by Police in UK, as other developed Nations. So if Trump was actually a President of American People, he would be working to correct this horrible wrong, but he actually champions this Wrong as with all other wrongs in USA.
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In case, you have been brain washed by Main Stream (Wall Street) media, aka right-wing Media, not to know these facts, here:

US police have already killed more than 100 people this year
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-police-killings-2017-total-deaths-caused-officers-sandra-bland-trayvon-martin-a7568056.html

US police kill more in days than other countries do in years
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries
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Well said my friend. Trump plays the card that he is a real Pro-American Patriot, but based on facts you have listed, of course he and his insane followers are the real Satanic Anti-Americans.
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In case you have been brainwashed by the corrupt, corporate fascist left-wing media, you might tend to think that Chicago or Baltimore police should disarm themselves.
Comparing a country (England), where conservatism and tradition have the police AND criminals, both living according to a code, with the lawless, corrupt and morally depraved thugs, in Democrat-controlled U.S. ghettoes is stupid. Brutality trickles up. The killings, by police, are generally ALWAYS, because they faced a deadly...
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...fast moving threat and had to use deadly force.
If you want police killings to end, close down the ghettoes, keep kids in school, keep the able-bodied out of the welfare system, punish all crimes, stop teen pregnancy and end the political (D)eath grip on minorities.
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TOS, thank you for proving YET again what lunatics you Republicans in USA have become thanks to the Main Stream (Wall Street) media, aka right-wing Media. That is you actually said:

"Comparing a country (England), where conservatism"

in UK they have strict Gun Laws, which is supported by Margaret Thatchers Conservative party in UK. As well as they have Government run Universal Socialized Single Payer Healthcare (NHS) which again is supported by the Conservative party in UK. Both of which
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Republicans in US oppose, calling them "Socialism" or "Communism". So either Margaret Thatchers Conservative party in UK is "Socialists or Communists" or you Republicans in US are complete lunatics or WORSE.

And of course UK having strict Gun Laws, Socialized Healthcare, etc. sensible policies are why their rate of Police Shooting of their People is 0.001% of that of USA, which shooting of American People by Police, Trump supports, proving what Anti-American him and you Republicans are.
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TD, thanks once again, for proving how hateful you are, of the police and a complete racist Democrat for thinking that minorities should be sentenced, to life in the ghetto, away from your pretty homes and gated enclaves.
Is your clone idea of an inadequate single-payer health scheme, run by uncaring bureaucrats, set up to help kill of minorities? You and hyper-racist Hillary were made for each other.
D.C. and Chicago have strict gun laws. How's that working out for you?
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So you think advocating for Police in USA not KILLING Americans at 100,000% higher rates than UK, is being indication of "hateful you are"!
Is that how bat crazy you Republicans have become in USA thanks to real hateful garbage that pours out of Main Stream (Wall Street) media, aka right-wing Media?

And once again: Government run Universal Socialized Healthcare (NHS) is something that 100% of all Developed Nations 100% support, including Israel the BELOVED Nation of Trump/Clinton
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The totally corrupt Wall Street owned, Nazi left-wing media has turned you into a racist anti-minority thug, since you want to keep the ghetto crime factories in place creating hate, poverty and violence.
You weren't just voting FOR Hillary, you were also voting against equality of opportunity, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for all.
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Ministertriage,

Back to your original question, this issue about pro football players refusing to stand up for the national anthem, has become a very divisive issue. Witness the comments on this topic.

To add my two cents, as long as we have ghettos, racism, and poverty of all types, these types of issues will continue to be divisive with everybody taking pot shots at everyone else.

As long as racism that poverty exists in the United States, we are always going problems.
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TOS, so you think because TD is for cutting down the Police shooting of the Americans by 99%, because he is for giving all Americans Healthcare for Taxes we pay by having Government run Universal Socialized Healthcare (NHS), something that 100% of all Developed Nations have, including Israel the BELOVED Nation of Trump/Clinton; THEN that makes him or people like him such as myself, makes us: "Nazi left-wing"
WOW! Thank you for proving again and again, what raving lunatics you Republicans are.
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"[A]s long as we have ghettos, racism, and poverty of all types, these types of issues will continue to be divisive..."
"As long as racism that poverty exists in the United States, we are always going problems."
Wheeler, I agree with your two statements, but why not deal directly with the cause. These problems are the direct results of the Democrat Party's policies toward controlling black people. Vote every Democrat out of office and their modern equivalent, of chattel slavery, will end.
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Even though the Democrats at one time were a party that endorsed segregation and the white man's control of the South, now they are a far different party. However, that is not to say that they are the better party.

The problem with the Democrats is that they want to be everything to everyone. That is to say, but they want to play on both sides of the fence. That doesn't work! They want to be the party on both the working-class and the ruling class. They need to pick a side and stick with it.
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Wheeler, this Moron TOS as his only so called argument, goes back to Democrats having been pro-slavery as per Republicans and Lincoln being none. Rather than dealing with today's issues, in which today's issues, there is little real difference between Republi-CONS and Demo-RATS, from the state of Healthcare in USA where all developed Nations have Universal Socialized Health, to number of People shot by police in USA being 100,000% higher than other developed Nations, etc.
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Here:
US police have already killed more than 100 people this year
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-police-killings-2017-total-deaths-caused-officers-sandra-bland-trayvon-martin-a7568056.html


So getting back to this question: for Trump and right-wing Media picking on the NFL Player for kneeling during the Anthem rather than on WHY he was kneeling, which is INSANE state of Murder by Police/Guns, is more example of what Sociopath Trump/Republi-CONS are.
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ThinkDeep,

I agree with you, although I hate to paint all Republicans with the same brush as you might used to paint Donald Trump. There are some Republicans who are not, what you would describe as sociopaths.

Even though I am a liberal/radical, I will concede that there are Republicans that I actually get along with and are perfectly reasonable people. Please don't judge all Republicans by "the Donald". There actually are moderate, reasonable Republicans. I wish they would step forward.
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Have you two simpletons misunderstood everything about the U.S.? Right up to this election, with 25,000,000 improperly registered voters going for Hillary, who it seems didn't even win the popular vote, the Democrats remain mired in corruption.
Their history is bad, their present is bad and their future is likely unsalvagable.
Wheeler said "Even though I am a liberal/radical" which is an aberrant position, bordering on criminal. YOU are part of the problem, not the solution. (cont.)
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You are indeed the "enemy within". Yesterday someone, no different than you, killed 58 innocent people and wounded 500 others.
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Thom,

Fuck you!

You are nothing more than just another right-wing troll! DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
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Wheeler, it is people like you, who push to weaken our laws, impede police, defend the thugs, indoctrinate our children, hobble business, create ghettoes, kill our babies, deny real science, elect the (D)espicable and kill innocent concert-goers.
If you want a different type of government, move to where it exists. Don't attack America, democracy or Americas, just move away; you don't belong here.
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Thomat the Pyscho, "Yesterday someone ... killed 58 innocent people in Vegas..." thanks to the Republican lunatics such as you, Since we Liberals are for Strict Gun Laws, which BTW Margaret Thatchers conservative party in UK 100% supports, as a result of which strict Gun laws UK has 0.001% of Gun Deaths as in USA and has had almost ZERO mass shootings in 20 Years, compared to Dozens per Year in USA with insane Gun laws that Republicans Trump and NRA supports.
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Stinky, look at what strict gun laws (enacted by a SOCIALIST like you) did to Germany in the 1930s. Something like 50 million people died as a result.

Whether you want to believe it or not, once you take guns from Americans, there would be NOTHING to prevent HUNDREDS of millions of Americans from being slaughtered by invaders BRINGING THEIR GUNS WITH THEM.

I realize that you WANT Americans slaughtered as your posts so eloquently say. What will YOU do when they come for YOU?
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TD, I thought you had decided to limit yourself, to things you actually knew about. I guess you rightly figured that would leave you with nothing to do.
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Thom,

It sounds as though you are describing yourself. You behave like a total fascist, then get angry when somebody calls you out on your bullshit. Typical conservative asshole!
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Wheeler, I don't get angry at you children. I find it disappointing that you have convinced yourselves that you actually know what you are talking about.
You belong to a group of morons, who share the same lies and cut-and-paste them everywhere they can. Repetition doesn't make you right, it actually just makes you look gullible.
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Thom,

If this is the case, why do you keep repeating the same old tired bullshit?
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Wheeler, these People are such as TOS have been so brain washed by the right-wing lying Media, such as Fox and even worse than Fox which are the pyschos on TalkRadio and 100s of alt-right Web Sites, all of which are backed by 100s of Millions of Dollars, Billions of Dollars, by Wall Street Cabal, that they really have lost all grasp on reality. Therefor no matter how much facts you give to these Republican lunatics, made lunatics by right-wing Wall Street Media, they return with a rant at best.
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ThinkDeep,

I agree with you 100%. These right-wingers are so brainwashed that they are incapable of thinking for themselves or coming up with a fresh idea. They are programmed like a bunch of cyborgs. That's one reason I asked if Thom was a bot, or a real person in another post I made.

For some reason, these people seem to think that if you tell the same lie over and over again, it somehow becomes true.
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Actually, Wheeler, look through my posts, here and elsewhere and you will find a wealth of knowledge from me, gained through education, experience and observation. I have also included many links, to studies done by others and personal accounts of people involved.
Your contributions amount to quoting and agreement with TD and others, who possibly know even less than you do. Cut and paste repetition doesn't turn an opinion into a fact.
If you want lies and robots go to: RealDumbBlog.org.
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I may not have given you the proper URL for that opinion blog, but after seeing the idiotic statements there posted by many on this and other Anoox strings, I was laughing so hard I dropped my mouse, breaking it. This caused me to not make note of it. I was going to send it around to several friends, who don't think people that stupid can use computers.
Just look for Reporter, ThinkDeep etc., they seem to be running the site, which is pure drivel, repeated by every idiot, in attendance there.
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Thom,

Maybe if you stop blowing your own horn for a few minutes, you wouldn't have dropped your mouse. Oh well! I'm sure you have another one stowed someplace else in your trailer.

I'm very glad that Reporter, ThinkDeep, and others are here to help me combat the right-wing ignorance and propaganda that you spew forth with.
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Wheeler, you "Reporter, ThinkDeep, and others" personify ignorance. You have been on the wrong and ultimately losing side of every issue here.
You losers take up every knee-jerk cause, outlined by the corrupt, facist and racist left-wing corporate media and their liberal government allies. You portray yourselves as free thinkers, or even just thinkers, while remaining the victims of the left's propagandists. I have only tried to free you from mental slavery and get attacked for my efforts.
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Thom,

I suppose you think you are a freethinker? In reality, something which you probably know nothing about, you are just another right-wing robot parroting the same old conservative party line. This party line you cling to is just more lies and deception put forth by the conservative Right.

Also, by implying that Reporter, ThinkDeep, and the rest of us are just wallowing in ignorance is just more typical condescension; something the right excels in.
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Wheeler, I think much more of your inbred little group than you realize. They are certainly above "just wallowing in ignorance" they actually create and promote ignorance.
When they are directly questioned, they never answer, they insult the questioner. When presented with facts or new information, they insult the presenter.
As an example, the British NHS is failing and heavily in debt, while consuming an ever-increasing portion of the national revenue. (cont.)
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The British NHS has few redeeming factors, with staff shortages, equipment shortages, available beds, training, wait times, mortality rates and other factors which are ALL substandard to the U.S. system.
This is not only what is said here, buy in every major British newspaper and by the British Medical Association. Worse yet no one has found any good options to save it.
You cannot solve the problem of a falling birthrate and an aging society, by raising taxes. The numbers are against them...
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...but your merry little band of math challenged minions keep on pushing for an NHS here, where it faces the same issues. IT CAN'T WORK.
You all seem to live on an opinion site, where you say the same things so often that you infest each other intellectually and dull each other's ability to reason.
Let me give you some advice: leave the minion group, think for yourself and verify everything before you decide to give an opinion or take a stand. Half facts and mindless repetition only ...
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...make the minions look more stupid, if that is possible.
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Thom,

You say facts and figures. I say more right-wing propaganda and lies. I really beginning to think that you are nothing more than a right-wing troll, said here for no other purpose than to create dissension and spread lies.
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I am sorry Wheeler, I mistook you for someone, with the ability to reason. My bad!

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I agree with those who say that Trump has thrown this new rant and insult, this time against someone who is protesting against the horrendous state of Police brutality that we have in this Country, just to distract from all the horrible problems of USA, all of which problems Trump/Clinton/Obama and their Wall Street Billionaire pals are behind. From the state of Healthcare in this Country being a catastrophe for 10s of Millions of Americans, so that Big Pharma & Big insurance (arms of Wall Street) can make extra 1 Trillion more from Healthcare, damn be how many Americans they Kill or bankrupt per Year, to our Cities flooding like poor 3rd World countries such as 3-Million in Puerto Rico without power, etc.
And to these distraction you can add his threats against North Korea, because NK has Nukes. After all China & Russia have 100 times more Nukes than NK. And China and Russia border NK and they have no problem with NK, yet Trump (USA) are 10,000 Miles from NK but are so scared of NK that they are threatening Nuclear War on NK. How long are American People going to fall for these SCAMS on US?
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Very well said pal. very well said. This is just another distraction by this bum (aka Trump). But as bad as Trump's calling that NFL player for kneeling during the anthem to be a "Son of a Bitch" is that he actually said that:
"NFL attendance and viewership is down, because People are watching me" WOW. And to think that most of NFL owners supported Trump. That should be a lesson to them supporting a bum. OTN, Washington RedSkin owners who supported Trump called him basically "a total AHole".
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Here are some examples of even NFL Teams and players, calling Trump to be an idiot or worse for this new rant:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/24/sports/nfl-trump-anthem-protests.html?mcubz=1
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Thank you. If we do some thorough searching can we say we may have a part in some of this? Yes or no? I'm looking for well thought out answers, no blaming others, but part have we played as individuals?
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WT, you have nailed it my friend. That is this rant by Trump against this NFL player is indeed: "just to distract from all the horrible problems of USA"
Just one more such distraction. The other example being the War Mongering against North Korea, and as you noted which NK borders, repeat borders, China and Russia, which countries have 100 times more Nukes than NK, but they have no problems with NK, however I just heard on MSNBC and Fox, hold your breath:
"Is War with NK inevitable" LOL :)
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WT & Reporter, although it is true that this new rant by Trump is just another attempt to distract from all that is so WRONG with USA, the more important fact to consider is why Trump and Main Stream (Wall Street) media, aka right-wing Media, are focusing on the fact the Black Athlete that did not not stand for the national anthem, rather than on focusing on WHY he did not? Which was and is because he is a real Patriot whom wanted to right a real WRONG in USA. So should be commended for it.
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Once again WT (and clones) you have shown how racist you have become, that you won't disarm the hoodrats, but continue to blame the police for defending themselves and you.
You keep blaming the U.S. for finding the right path and ensuring that Americans receive the world's best healthcare. It appears that you want to kill off the minorities who would be driven to any NHS.
You are allowing your hateful racism to consume you.
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Voting FOR Trump was an overt act of love for the U.S., where equality of opportunity, freedom of thought, a fair vote, intellectual diversity and an end to political corruption is NOW a real possibility, unavailable in an 0bama/Clinton Amerika.
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3 weeks 1 day ago
ThomatOurStore,

Voting for Trump was an act of desperation done by working-class Americans who are so disenchanted that disillusion with his countries lack of response to them and their needs that they resorted to voting for a fascist.

What is happening in this country right now is quite similar to what happened in Germany before Hitler came to power. Desperate people do desperate things. Throw in a little racism and you have a very lethal mix.

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Dear Ministertriage:
Your question is an important subject never taugh in churchs. Should we as followers of Yeshua, the Messiah of Israel, get into politics, because he never once did? Yes there is injustice in the United States, more than ever toward minorities like African-Americans, but that injustice does not come only from policemen, it comes also from people in churchs, whose hate do not let them behave like followers of Christ. Even some church goers hate jews, eventhou Yeshua was a jew and behave like a jew all his life.
Everyone as American have the right to disagree and express in a respectfull manner his or her disagremment. The National Anthem is not a respectful manner to do so. I do not judge those African Americans who express their resentment against a society that forgets about them, but there are better ways to do it, and when they do they will probably will have the attetion and respect of everyone.
My humble opinion. Blessings to all.
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Thank you for your comment. Yes there are others ways to do things without strife and contention attached to it. Once the true Christ is illuminated in our hearts we will be able to see the world through the eyes of Agape love
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In Matthew 22:21 Jesus said "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."
In Romans 13:1 "Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God and those which exist are established by God."
These are political statements, made by Jesus.
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More Bible thumping! How can you prove that Jesus actually existed, let alone the Messiah?

In other words, these are political statements made by a person who may or may not have existed.

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