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Posted On: 2017-09-25 09:07:30
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What you think about professional athletes not standing for national anthem?

Good day everyone. I know I've been away for a minute, but I would like to know how you all feel about the recent comments and actions concerning professional athletes not standing for the national anthem? Do you believe they are disrespecting the flag, yes or no? I am asking because I as a Veteran of the US Army MP Corpse and as a Christian I may have different views than others, but I'd like to hear from you and let's all respect and appreciate each other's views.
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6 months 1 week ago

They are a disgrace to the country and should in no way be allowed to be a part of an American team.
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10 months 4 weeks ago

If they don't stand for National Anthem, they should not play!
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The issue is not that simple. They are demonstrating against rampant Police brutality in USA. And by putting a Knee down they are doing it in the most f***g civil manner you can.
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The issue is exactly that simple. They are creating a toxic workplace environment for what is largely racist reasons. Fire them, or fine them until they comply.
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If they do not do what they are PAID to do, they should be FIRED. The fans PAY to see them PLAY, NOT to listen to a LECTURE.
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6 months 1 week ago
Mmerlinn,

People do not lose or surrender their First Amendment rights or citizenship just because they are working.

Do you lose your First Amendment rights when you're working at the troll factory?
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Wheelie, apparently you have never read nor understood the Constitution. The Constitution ONLY defines rights between the GOVERNMENT and its citizens. It does NOT address any rights between citizens.

Therefore, a private citizen per the Constitution has NO rights more nor less than any other private citizen. So, private citizens have NO rights to lose nor surrender when working for any private company.

For someone that supposedly has degrees, I question whether you even earned them.
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6 months 1 week ago
Wheeler has previously admitted that his Lesbian Dance Theory degree never required knowledge of the U.S. Constitution.
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The answers I see on this topic are always leaning to the right or the left. It is far simpler than that. As a human being we are granted free will, and if they don't want to stand that is up to them. But on the other side of that coin, You have the choice to stop watching football if you find their actions distasteful. Advertisers have every right to pull their dollars. The NFL and team leadership can penalize the players if they see fit. It all boils down to the choices, and the choices made by people and organizations have consequences, both negative and positive. Kneel during the anthem, it may negatively impact your organization and your personal career, or it may bring attention to an issue that is more important to you than negative effects. Watch football knowing what has been going on, and it may upset your personal views, or it may inspire you in some way. Choices we all have them.
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The question is how can we have the real Choice of sending all Republicans, from Trump to Ted Crazy to Rush Hannety, etc. to the insane asylums that these lying Anti-American bastards belong to. And bring about real choices in this country, as they have in European countries, etc. of having multiple parties and not have the NO choice of choosing between ultra right-wing Repugs and right-wing Democrats,
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GC, all you are doing is empowering the left: America's oldest and most belligerent enemy.
Conservatism has kept America free, functional and prosperous for our whole history and for the past 160 plus years the centrist Republican Party has been the power for good, against racism, communism, Naziism and the criminal corruption of the Democrats.
You, who do not know our history or cling to leftist revision, are condemned by your willful ignorance.
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1 year 1 week ago
Blah!Blah!Blah!Blah!
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Wheeler, once again, has responded with one of his usual, soaring, intellectual rejoinders.
He and the rest, of his Hitler Youth soulmates, have contributed so much to the fiction content of these conversations that they might almost be missed, if Mom decides that her basement could serve a much better purpose.
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I see Wheelie's intelligence has been put on display again. So sad.
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mmerlinn,

I just don't feel like wasting time trying to convince you or Thom of anything, because both of you are so set in your right-wing twisted mentality that there is nothing I can say, or anyone else, that would convince you or Thom that you both have tiny little narrow minds that are stuck somewhere in the 19th century.

So, why should I just "cast pearls to the swine"?

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Wheeler, you semi-quoted: "cast pearls before swine" from a similar statement that I made about you and your fellow minions' willful ignorance or blindly accepting the false narrative of the corrupt, corporate left-wing media.
It is hard to believe that in this day and age that you and others have willingly become the useful idiots of the left endorsing and spreading their lies, perversions and evil intent.
I suggest that you drop out of your present high school and enroll in one outside of...
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...the Public Indoctrination System. You may never be college material, but there is no reason to stay stupid, for life (please excuse me, if your current undeveloped faculties are an accident of birth).
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Wheelie, trying to convince me to believe your lies is an exercise in futility, so you are correct in assuming that you would be wasting your time. If believing only the truth is an example of being stuck in the 19th century, then, indeed, I will always be stuck in the 19th century. By saying that you are also implying that truth does not exist in the 20th century at all, which means I would never want to move forward to the century of lies. BTW lies are NOT pearls.
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1 year 5 days ago
Ditto!
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And, Wheelie, we are NOW in the 21st century, so if the 20th century was nothing but lies, then 21st century (TODAY) is even worse. Since it appears that you are referring to the 1900s as the 19th century (WRONG!!!), HOW IN THE WORLD IS ANYONE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT YOU PROMULGATE???
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mmerlinn,

I was referring to the 19th century as the 1800s. Jackass!

Thom, FYI I am a college graduate. I have two degrees, one and English and the other in Liberal arts.

The two of you deserve each other. I hope you make a happy couple. For me, I finished trying to talk to either one of you.

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Wheeler, you can't stop now you have a new lie to push - that you aren't a high school dropout, who sits on Anoox trying to meddle in adult conversations.
I guess that you learned about "Blah!Blah!Blah!Blah!" in grad school.
"FYI I am a college graduate. I have two degrees, one and English and the other in Liberal arts." - you wouldn't be able to pass high school English on your best day.
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Thom,

No one really gives a damn what you think about anything.
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Wheeler, your lack of reasoning has rendered you irrelevant. Your elementary school level logic, along with your cut and paste talking points, will be easily replaced by any other RealDumbPosts ingrate, on his Mommy's computer.
Don't let the door hit you, on the way out.
BTW, you might find a local high school willing to let you attend their remedial English class. You sadly exhibit the downside, of our revolving door style, educational system. Don't embarrass yourself by bringing up your degree
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ThomatOurStore, you really are the best and saddest example of the Intellectual damage that right-wing Media in USA, such as Fox and psychos on Talkradio, have done to Millions of American People, such as your sorry f***d up ass :(

After all, Wheeler as a Liberal has 2 degrees in "English and the other in Liberal arts". You as a Fox viewer being a white trash are living in a Trailer by the River with a Trump MAGA sign on front of your s***y rusted Van.
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Hmm, at least TOS's rusted van is PAID FOR and is HIS. Not like the minions here that own NOTHING and live in their Mommy's basement.
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And Wheelie may have an English degree, but based on his comments he never learned anything while studying for that degree. That is assuming it is a valid degree and not one from a Cheerios box.
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Cokofluff, how would a racist, like you, know where I live, the color of my skin or for whom I voted?
You are not even smart enough to know your right-wing from your left-wing, so how can you judge the value Of Wheeler's "English degrees"?
Let me give you a better guide. Just read his posts; his grammar and spelling tell a very different story.
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They have every right to protest on THEIR OWN DIME, and NO right to protest on someone else's dime.

When I go to a game I PAY to watch a game, I DO NOT pay to be lectured and I DO NOT pay to see our country and military denigrated.

There is nothing stopping those millionaire cry babies from moving to a country better suited for them since they think they have it so bad here.
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Although one can make weak Argument that they should not protest on the field, such as you saying: "They have every right to protest on THEIR OWN DIME"

The fact remains that the Athletes who demonstrated against Police brutality in USA, are doing all of US a huge great service. Since Police brutality in USA is a horrible fact that needs to be addressed, given that Police in USA shoot more People DEAD in 1 Month than for example Police do in UK in 100 Years!!!
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And to add to your IDIOTness due to the right-wing lying Media in USA, aka Fake News, by saying that:
"nothing stopping those millionaire cry babies"

What better way for a "millionaire" to stand up for those who are being Wronged in USA, whom have NO Voice, since the right-wing Media, aka Fake News, does not cover their Cries. Than these "millionaires" to speak for them, rather than "millionaires" that Wall Street Media covers who just flaunt their wealth by driving a (European) Sport Car.

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Punchy, you sound as if you went 18 rounds with the corrupt, corporate left-wing media types at CNN, MSNBC, NPR etc., the generators of all fake news.
The bottom line is so simple that I am surprised that you missed it.
1) These intellectual lightweights are not covered by the 1st Amendment on the field.
2) The data suggests that America does not, in fact, have a problem with racist police violence โ€” instead, it has several quite distinct problems with racism, policing, and civil violence.
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The overall occupational fatality rate among American police was 16 per 100,000. Thatโ€™s almost as high as the total homicide victimization rate among African-Americans, for 2011 (the last figures I could find), was 17.5 per 100,000.)
To some extent, the high number of killings by the police isnโ€™t a โ€œpolice problem,โ€ but a symptom of Americaโ€™s larger violence problem. ALL American citizens have become too quick to use lethal force, to protect themselves.
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If you don't believe me walk down the streets of America's twenty most dangerous cities (all run by Democrats and all protected by the lying, corrupt, left-wing corporate media). The slaves of liberalism will gladly teach you about violence.
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Thom, you do realize that when you suggest that the morons actually DO SOMETHING (like walking down the SAFE SAFE streets of Detroit, Chicago, et alia) instead of spouting self-righteous hot air, that you are talking to the wind. They would be scared shi, oops, spitless to even think of getting within a hundred miles of those liberal havens.
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Reading comments by Republicans here, those supporting Fake President Trumps comments about the NFL player demonstrating with a quite dignified kneel the horrible state of Police brutality in USA, is breath taking.

So as others have noted:
Police in USA shoot more People DEAD in 1 Month than for example Police do in UK in 100 Years

And you Trump Republican, rather than being upset by this horrible fact, are instead upset by athlete who protested this by simply kneeling during anthem. Really!
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mmerlinn, I must confess that trolling these ingrates is like throwing lemon slices to the ducks, since they hate it but chase after it anyway (every single time).
The chances of a police officer being murdered is about the same as a black man being murdered and usually by the same source, young black men.
No wonder the police, like every legally armed citizen, are so quick to shoot. The risk of letting a possibly violent racist perp close is too high, if you want to go home to your family.
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2 ideas, these out of touch millionaires need to be spending their time and money in the ghetto, being their brother's keepers, instead of making kneeling fools of themselves on someone else's time, for a bogus cause.
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Thom,

I was wondering how long it would take for you to play the race card. When do you like to believe it or not, or whether it interrupts your right-wing comfort zone, an African-American male is far more likely to be shot by police than a white man. That is a cold, hard fact that you racist right-wingers refuse to acknowledge. Racism is alive and well in America!

You really need to get out of your state of denial about it, because one of these days you may be made aware of it in an ugly way
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"African-American male is far more likely to be shot by police than a white man"

Yup, CHERRY PICK YOUR DATA so you can pull the wool over unsuspecting eyes.

You should have stated, "The African-American male is far more likely to be shot BY ANOTHER AFRICAN-AMERICAN MALE than by either the police or a white man."
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Another race card player heard from!
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You are the one that is playing the race card by NOT TELLING THE TRUTH.

There is NOTHING racist about what I wrote. It is the truth that ANYONE of ANY race can verify.
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Mmerlinn,

Keep telling yourself that long enough, and you might actually believe it. Or, watch Sean Hannity often enough and you may also believe it.
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I don't watch Hannity, so whatever liberal garbage he is spouting will never cause me to change.
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mmerlinn,

If you think Hannity is a liberal, I would hate to see where you would put Hitler on the political spectrum.
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Wheeler, all of your race cards seem to be jokers. You played them all through this little string, but only exposed yourself as the real bigot here.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449505/police-shootings-black-men-race-not-reason-causal-effect

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Wheeler, according to the New York Post -
In 2015, a police officer was 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male was to be killed by a police officer.

Black males have made up 42 percent of all cop-killers over the last decade, though they are only 6 percent of the population. That 18.5 ratio undoubtedly worsened in 2016, in light of the 53 percent increase in gun murders of officers โ€” committed vastly and disproportionately by black males.

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Try this 2016 statistic on, for size. "Among all homicide suspects, whose race was known, white killers of blacks numbered only 243." New York Post.
You can't even make your racism work for you. Poor little bigot.
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Thom,

The New York Post is basically a tabloid for NYC. Why don't you give us a real credible source of information. Next, you're going to be quoting the National Enquirer.
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Wheeler, why do you indulge the idiot fringe with your support. You are well beyond the age where you should understand that these idealistic children Reporter, Punchie, Yes2freebies etc. are clueless about the world and how it really works. If they mature and still don't get it, as you have obviously failed to do, they will ruin the world they inherit.
They have lost all sense and proportion by tying themselves to the lies of the left as pushed by the corrupt, corporate,...
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...and criminal left-wing media. Instead of providing guidance and counsel it appears that you are egging them on. Shame on you.
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โ€œIf you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.โ€ โ€“ Malcolm X

The lying, corrupt, criminal, liberal corporate left-wing media hasn't changed one little (no pun intended) bit, since Malcolm's time.
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It is their right and a right I was ready to fight for, in the U.S. Navy.
So is your right to disagree.

Godwin's law if you disagree.
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Mangles, these athletes are not covered by the 1st Amendment, when on the field, but rather by the contracts with their employers.
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Moron, all these Athletes are doing is Kneel during the National Anthem. And they are doing this to bring attention to the horrible state of Police Brutality in the USA, given the FACT that: Police in USA shoot more People DEAD in 1 Month than for example Police do in UK in 100 Years

Here:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/us-police-shot-more-people-dead-last-month-than-british-officers-did-in-95-years-a6769316.html

But of course you have being turned into some Sub-Human rather than
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commending these People who stood up for betterment of American People & Nation, you attack the Messenger and time of the Message, etc. non-sense rather than the REAL issue itself. Just as our Sociopath President Trump did.

All of which Upside Down World, all of which WRONGS in USA are possible due to the non-sense, Fear Mongering & Hate Mongering that pours out of Ultra right-wing Media, such as Fox and other instruments of Dark Wall Street Monsters.
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Punchhead, commending people for STEALING from their employers is REPREHENSIBLE and shows your true nature. If they want to protest, and they DO have a right to protest, then it should be on THEIR DIME, not their employer's dime.

I realize the you are not old enough to be in the workforce yet, but what do you think McDee's would do to you sif you bullied customers that you are supposed to SERVE? Yes, you would get FIRED, and so should ANYONE that STEALS from their employer.
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mmerlinn, how the FAWK Kneeling during the National Anthem is "commending people for STEALING from their employer"!!!

Go ahead and answer this and prove YET AGAIN what Lunatics you RepubliCONS have become because of the insane SH*T that pours out of the Ultra right-wing Media, aka Fox and the psychos on TalkRadio.
Or put another way you Fox FWKED brain Moron: how is Kneeling during the National Anthem = "bullied customers that you are supposed to SERVE" at the Wall Street crap hole called MCD!
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10 months 3 weeks ago
Bunchy, it is very simple. They are getting PAID TO PLAY, not paid to protest. When they are protesting WHILE GETTING PAID, they are THIEVES stealing from their employer as well as stealing TIME from the PAYING FANS.

They do have the right to protest, BUT NOT WHILE THEY ARE GETTING PAID TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.

I realize, though, that YOU have no comprehension what theft means, so I hold NO hope that you can understand the big words I wrote.

The food stamps you are using are STOLEN from us.
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mmerlinn, PunchDrunk could never understand that he doesn't deserve welfare, which he would see as a basic right.
How on earth do you expect him to believe the concept of theft, as being wrong or bad?
Sometimes, I think you and I are giving these people too much credit, for basic intelligence.
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Punchman, these People can never answer for the insane crap that spews out of their Ass Holes (aka Mouths), since that crap is put into their brains by Fox and other Organs of right-wing Media. I mean how insane do you have to be to say:

"Kneeling during the National Anthem is commending people for STEALING from their employer"!!

When again these People Kneeling during the National Anthem were demonstrating against the horrible state of Police Killing of American People!
Amazing :(
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Hard to believe that Puffy is even out of diapers yet since the synapses in his brain cells are not wired up yet. Really a good Chicago example.

Theft is taking ANYTHING from ANYONE without the OWNER'S PRIOR permission. The numbnuts that are kneeling are doing so WHILE they are getting PAID, which is NOT what they are getting paid to do, so they are THIEVES, plain and simple.

If they want to kneel, and they DO have that right, they can do if OFF OF THE CLOCK! Anything else is THEFT.
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10 months 3 weeks ago
mmerlinn, it should be common knowledge that everyone should wipe their Kokopuff, whenever they take a Punchman.
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