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Is This What God Purposed for me and for the rest of mankind?

Read any newspaper. Look at television, or listen to the radio. There are so many stories of crime, war, and terrorism! Think about your own troubles. Perhaps illness or the death of a loved one is causing you great distress. You may feel like the good man Job, who said that he was “filled with dishonor and affliction.”—Job 10:15.
THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT GOD WILL BRING ABOUT THESE CHANGES ON THE EARTH.
“He will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore.”—Revelation 21:4
“The lame will leap like the deer.”—Isaiah 35:6
“The eyes of the blind will be opened.”—Isaiah 35:5
“All those in the memorial tombs will . . . come out.”—John 5:28, 29
“No resident will say: ‘I am sick.’”—Isaiah 33:24
“There will be an abundance of grain on the earth.”—Psalm 72:16


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Well lets keep in mind that all the Wars are initiated by the War Mongers in USA/UK/Israel and these Wars have lead to creation of terrorists such as ISIS. After all there was NO ISIS in Iraq until US destroyed the secular regime of Iraq & Libya, places where ISIS is supposedly is. So if you want the Truth, do not expect to get it from the same Media machinery in USA that supports War after War after War, resulting in Obama being bigger War Monger than Bush, resulting in election of Sociopath Trump promising even more Wars which means more terrorism. So I guess Bible is a pack of lies since God & Bible is letting these lies and wrongs to happen on EARTH :(
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@GurdMuller Your responses are inconsistent with each other. One minute, you blame the wars on earth on "War Mongers in USA/UK/Israel and the next minute you chip in God and the Bible and claim that they let lies and wrongs happen on the earth. How does God and the Bible relate to the wars in Iraq and Libya? Did God or the Bible ask Trump Obama, Cameron or Theresa May etc to go to war with any country?
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Its pretty obvious that you are biased against Christianity and a prejudiced mind never sees reason and truth even when it is pretty glaring. God and the Bible cannot be blamed for "any" evil on the earth. Man is responsible for all the evils on the earth. It is man (not God) that plans for and goes to war. It is men that steal, kill and lie. Blaming God for the evils on the earth is equivalent to blaming Him for your reply. God didnt reply to @stopbad's question. It was @GurdMuller that..
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..chose to reply so please try to be objective, balanced and fair when answering instead of giving uneducated and unwarranted replies.
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Overall I am in agreement with what you have said, that is God did not make Bush_Obama_Trump wage War after War on smaller countries. They, to be exact the Military Industrial complex, Wall Street and Israel Lobby did, which owns and controls these people. But the question and quotes it paraphrases from Bible imply that God has Power over People, such as:
“The eyes of the blind will be opened.”—Isaiah 35:5

But as I said and I think you agree with, God actually has no such powers as evide
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as evident from these Wars after Wars of USA, by Obama_Trump War Mongers, upon small Countries that People with "eyes of the blind" follow like Sheep's to Slaughter :(
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1st of all, Im glad that we both "agree that " God "did not" make bush Obama and trump etc go to war. You write "But the question and quotes it paraphrases from Bible imply that God has Power over People,..." You must understand that the Bible is a Spiritual book. It is not an intellectual book. A person may be able to and write but that does not mean that the person would be able to understand the Bible. The Understandings of the Bible are hidden from the ways and wisdom of the average man
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and its interpretations are always shrouded in mystery. For example, when Jesus tells people to take up their cross and follow Him, He doesn't mean go and cut a piece of wood and follow me. He means deny yourself of your own desire and imbibe mine so the Bible "mustn't" be taken literally. Another thing that you must realize is that politicians tend to twist noble things to suit their own purposes. We see it everyday, politicians with no links to famous people like lincoln, jfk, einstein etc
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quoting them and sometimes claiming that they said things that they didnt say. Politicians always love to twist the Bible (and other books) to suit their own purposes because they know that it appeals to the sensibilities of many people. The Bible itself warns against these kind of people
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures...
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unto their own destruction. 2 Pet 3:16
Anyone can quote anything but is their interpretation of what was quoted accurate. For instance, I could interpret your statement" .... After all there was NO ISIS in Iraq until US .." to mean that there was no goddess isis (isis is a goddess in egyptian mythology) in iraq (babylon) but that is a clear misinterpretation of what you meant.
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Gurdy, you are a LIAR. You said, "Well lets keep in mind that all the Wars are initiated by the War Mongers in USA/UK/Israel". Note that you said ALL wars. IF this were true, and it most assurredly is not, the USA MUST have existed since the beginning of time otherwise how do you explain wars THOUSANDS of years ago?
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koran said kill unbelievers. sura 8:12. Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191). Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29). This is bad. Jesus says "love your enemies". Matthew 5:44. So you may want to change and be a true christian.
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mmerlinn, you are either brain dead or worse. Since of course I am referring to current Wars, or Wars over the last 50 Years. So you want me to list the Wars that USA/UK/Israel that have waged over these last 50 Years? And OTOH list the Wars that the normal Countries of the World have been engaged in over same time, such as Canada, China, etc.

For a glimpse of these horrible facts consider that USA under Bush_Obama_Trump has been waging War on Afghanistan for 15 Years while China, the 2nd
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largest economy in the World, that borders Afghanistan, repeat borders Afghanistan, has spent ZERO Dollars or ZERO soldiers to wage War on Afghanistan.

So ask yourself why is it that USA under Republicans and Democrats is so afraid of "Islamic Terrorist" that it has been waging War on Afghanistan, that is 10,000 Miles away from USA, for an astounding 15 years while China that borders Afghanistan, had ZERO fear of these "Islamic Terrorist" and hence has spent ZERO in waging War on Afghanistan!
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Gurdie, no matter what you say, you are a PROVEN LIAR. As such, it is IMPOSSIBLE to believe ANYTHING you say, whether true or false.
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"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man".colosian 4:6
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I thought this Forum was Christian Religion, not coy/paste socialist propaganda!

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Read any newspaper. Look at television, or listen to the radio. Those sources will NEVER reveal God's will or purpose for YOU. Although the Bible Quotes You gave are accurate renditions, guidance by the Holy Spirit is required to obtain a proper comprehension of what they mean, and when and where to rightly apply them. Many people misunderstand that the Scripture are intended to instruct and edify true believers - NOT the world as a whole. Sincere dedication to and love of God are required for a righteous interpretation of spiritual truth.But God has promised that those who seek Him with ALL their heart, shall find Him - Jer. 29:13.
No God?, No peace. KNOW GOD, know peace!
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If there is really any God, then why has it not stopped the suffering and occupation and destruction of Iraqi cities by US under Bush_Obama_Trump?
Resulting in death of at least 1-Million Iraqi Man, Woman & Child due to these US Wars and occupations! And now they tell us there is ISIS in Iraq as basis for killing any and all Iraqi people and perpetual occupation and destruction of that Country :(
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Have you somehow received, some communication, stating that I am NOT being guided by the Holy Spirit?
History has judged the left over and over and they have ALWAYS been found on the side of evil. The blood lust, of Islamists is manifest.
America and the non-Islamic world have run out of cheeks, to turn.
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Gurd, there is a history, of how Islam has dealt with the rest of humanity, which can only define it as a great evil.
Would you not have rescued Kuwait? Would you have allowed 8 attacks against the U.S. by bin Laden, like Clinton did? Would you not go after bin Laden over 9/11?
What would you have done?
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Gurd, your wording gives you away. It shows you to be heavily influenced by the members, of a silly opinion site, who know little, and do nothing, but regurgitate each other's hateful, anti-American, anti-centrist and pro-One World opinions.
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A significant difference between Christianity/Judaism and Islam is that they serve different Gods. Allah is NOT the God of the Bible, but of the Quran, written 609-632. The Bible of course predates that by thousands of years for the OT & 600 years for the NT. Research history and learn the truth. A good start is:

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/muhammad/rape.aspx

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ThomatOS, do you live in some alternate universe from reality? Oh yes, you do, it is called Fox news and right-wing Media in USA, leading to election of Sociopath Trump and your Upside down facts. For you say that:
"Would you not go after bin Laden over 9/11"
What did 9/11 have to do with waging War on Iraq that KILLED 1-Million+ Iraqi civilians? Since Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

And lets also state the fact that this unjust criminal War on Iraq resulted in creation of ISIS.
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So Republicans & Democrats & Wall Street Media that sold the Iraq War based on mountain of lies KILLED, which unjust War Killed 995,000 More Iraqis than ISIS has Killed Americans, and by some Osmosis Obama_Trump and ABC, CNBC, Fox and MSNBC etc. think that:
"Islamic extremist are horrible killers"! Please, do you People think we are all brain dead like you who listens to "Fake News"!
Wake up to the fact that the real cause of all Terror is the Military Industrial Complex that IKE warned US.
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Sarah, great replies to this ThomatOurStore idiot.
TOS, I am no Fan of Islam. But it is your beloved Leaders Trump, Obama, Bush, etc. who LOVE the Islamic State (Of Saudi Arabia), which is a most barbaric State. With that said, the facts are that US/UK/Israel have KILLED 1-Million+ more to what Islamic Terrorist have killed.

Here: Trump signs Multi Billion Arms Deal with Islamic State of Saudi Arabia
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-signs-110-billion-arms-deal-with-saudi-arabia/
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EmptyHead,when you folks decide to make foolish statements (When did you not?), you certainly go all the way. You are wrong about my viewing preferences, ideology and The Iraq War, which was restarted by Bill Clinton in 1993.
The Clintons are the real Saudiphiles and have been pushing the Saudi agenda through the back halls of government for years. After all the Saudis can afford them.
BTW, my questions were for GurdMuller; it is not your place to interrupt, when grownups are talking.
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@GurdMuller What a silly question "If there is really any God, then why has "it" not stopped the suffering and occupation and destruction of Iraqi cities by US under Bush_Obama_Trump?" Man created computers and when the creators of computers created them, they didn't load viruses unto them (they were virus free by default) so does the fact that viruses exist on (some) computers mean that the people who created them do not exist? Of course not. The viruses on the computers exist ..
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...because the users of the computers loaded them unto their pcs. Problems exist because we 'load' them into the world with our choices. God has "nothing" to do with the evil on earth. He has given us the free will to be what we wanna be which explains why you have the ability to offload your filthy mind in an attempt to belittle and blaspheme Him. Think before you reply pls.
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@MJThompson Very true. We look for truth in the wrong places and that is why we never attain it. The Bible never told us to look unto the New York Times or the Washington post or CBS NEWS OR FOX NEWS. It told us to look unto Jesus. The deception in this world is fueled by disinformation. All falsehood in the world was born from one single lie (disinformation) you shall not die if you eat the forbidden tree.
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And since the fall of man, disinformation is what is used to mold our minds into accepting false and inconsistent world views. That's why its so expensive to place adverts on tv . That is why the major media co-ps are owned by few people. That's why the major websites in the world are owned by a few people. The few who own the websites also acquire others in order to expand their outreach and influence.
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...i.e to win more minds. Yes there are wars, yes there is terror, yes there is hunger in the world but no it doesn't have to be that way. Jesus is showing us a reality that transcends this one. A sane, perfect and eternal reality but are we seeing what he is showing us or are we tuned into this hive mind (i.e the tv world)
that shows us a world full of horror, sex, violence and fear. The people who control this world aim to use information to keep us in a perpetual state of fear and terror
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..but God wants to free us from those fears by showing us a reality that transcends this one, a reality where love rules, a stable. eternal and sane reality that is empowered by His Spirit. God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power and love and a sound mind. So we must stop acting like sissies and boldly seek the eternal truth that sets men free from the shackles of sin.

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Our prison is fueled by deception i.e it is a mental prison and because of this, we cannot discern it with our five senses and that is why majority of people do not recognize the magnitude of their slavery. Information fuels the world. The world is a gigantic information field and any piece of information i.e frequency that we tune to becomes a part of our reality which is why the devil works tooth and nail to make sure that he controls the information field on earth by ...
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suppressing the truth and upholding falsehood and rewarding/exalting error and labeling/suppressing good.
There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, as an error which proceedeth from the ruler: Folly is set in great dignity, and the rich sit in low place. Ecc 10:5-6
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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BERRINTON - As always - a still true voice of reason. Seems 'realnewsposts' crew have nothing better to do than imagine their influence matters.

ThomatOurStore - I salute you. Reminds me of Jesus deciding to pass through Samaria - Öh, but No Lord" - because they neither knew or understood HIM.

PEACE to BOTH of You!

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Thanks for your comment.
“Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:” John 11:25
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WHAT TO DO TO ENTER GOD’S KINGDOM AND LIVE FOREVER.
Repent, and stop the bad things you used to do. God said all have sinned. Romans 3:23. Pray first thing in the morning when you wake up, before eating, before sleeping at night, and other times too, for yourself and others. Also bless, thank and praise God in your prayers. End your prayers in Jesus name. Read the Bible daily. Try finish the whole bible in a year and obey. Attend church regularly, and preach the gospel of Jesus.
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GurdMuller - how & why does a person in Germany enter political debate about a country (USA) for which he isn't even a citizen? We know massive progressive movements in Europe have monopolized YOUR media, literally brain washing the ignorant who buy into rhetoric parroted by grand manipulator's constant propaganda. That's how the 3rd Reich took over! Time to wake up to truth. Those who won't learn from History are doomed to repeat it.
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header 909 - why is your profile home listed as USA, but your country flag is NOT? The red banner, gold crescent, five star configuration on it spells communist. No wonder you think American policies are ALL perversions!
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Thanks for your comment. I will check it out.
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Thanks MJ,
"May neighbors respect you,
Trouble neglect you,
The angels protect you,
And heaven accept you".
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ThomatOurStore - How kind! Back at you sir.
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Thomat die Moran, your Beloved leader Trump just went to Islamic State of Saudi Arabia as his FIRST foreign visit and kissed the ass of the Saudi Kings by giving them the LARGEST Military Order in History. Here:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-saudi-arabi

And then he went to Israel and kissed the ass of his Israeli BOSSES, the real BOSSES of Obama_Clinton_Bush_Trump, by confirming $78Bill in FREE Money by Obama to them.

Wake UP you buffoon :
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Damn hard to believe a proven liar has any facts at all, whether true or false.
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By "a proven liar has any facts at all" I Trust you are referring to your BELOVED Leaders Trump_Obama and the Wall Street Media that makes these liers possible.

Since I listed 100% facts as per Links I provided.
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Gordy, I was referring to YOU. YOU are a PROVEN LIAR, so NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY, you CANNOT be believed, EVEN IF YOU ARE CORRECT.
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Oh, then you are a Proven right-wing Media brain dead Moron, since I just listed 100% FACTS you freaking retard! After all, what part of what I listed is not 100% FACT?

Didnt Trump just went to Islamic State of Saudi Arabia as his FIRST foreign visit and kissed the ass of the Saudi Kings by giving them the LARGEST Military Order in History. Here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/world/middleeast/jared-kushner-saudi-arabia-arms-deal-lockheed.html
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I have not been proven right, nor do I care whether you believe I am right or wrong. Nor do I care about your 'facts', not because they may or may not be correct, but because they are presented to me by a PROVEN LIAR who CANNOT be trusted to always deal in real facts. Bottom line is you are a liar, and therefore EVERY fact that you present, whether true or false, CANNOT be trusted.
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Only in the Mind and World of Republican lunatics and right-wing Media such as Fox, Wall Street Journal, etc. that makes your BLACK World possible, are 100% facts: "PROVEN LIAR".
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GurdMuller - Your "Since I listed 100% facts as per Links I provided" are NOT FACTS, they are opinions from journalists who wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on their lying lips! They've learned well that sensationalism draws an immediate crowd to pump their ratings, sell their papers, and spread their propaganda to uneducated non-objective irrational persons. B4 you continue assuming you know others well enough to paste labels on them, consider this: who knows YOU better than yourself?
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Other than GOD, who can know any person better than the person themselves? If I say I'm a Republican, how can you possibly think you KNOW what republican's think or believe, unless you're one too? YOU CANNOT! Neither can you rightly support the claims of others who have as their only proof unanimous sources? How can the credibility and reliability of such sources be FACTS when we NEVER even know their real identity. They might be Russians posing as legitimate journalists. They might be wolves
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in sheep's clothing. They might be good, but without revealing who they are, their masquerade remains suspicious an NOTHING they say can be rightly construed as FACT! It seems these sources forgot that terms like 'alleged', and 'assumed' still exist in the English language. Facts are established only AFTER proving allegations and assumptions.
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ERROR - "who have as their only proof unanimous sources?" SHOULD READ = ANNONYMOUS sources,

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"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." - Ecclesiastes 10:2
Liberalism is the path of destruction; every evil, known to man, has come from the left, including Marxism, Socialism, Fascism, Nazism and Communism.
Even in the U.S. the left wants the wholesale importation, of the unvetted Islamic haters of Judaism, Christianity and the U.S. itself. A vote for the left is a pledge, of hatred, for America and her people.
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Thanks for your comment.
"But I (Jesus) say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them——“ Matthew 5 :44
koran said kill unbelievers. sura 8:12. Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191). Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29). This is bad. So you may want to change and be a true christian.

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Matthew 5:38-39 "You have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. But I tell you not to resist an evildoer. On the contrary, whoever slaps you on the right cheek, turn the other to him as well."

We have turned the other cheek, to Islam, and it too has been struck. In the absence of a third cheek, we would be foolish indeed, to turn our back on Muslims. Being Christian should never equate with being stupid.
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You are right about this Thomat. We just have to keep obeying the words of God. "On the contrary: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."
Romans 12:20
"But I (Jesus) say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them——“ Matthew 5 :44

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In an interview, General Norman Schwartzkof was asked if he thought there was room for forgiveness, toward the people who have harbored and abetted the terrorists who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks on America.
His answer..."I believe that forgiving them is God's function. Our job is simply to arrange the meeting.”

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