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Posted On: 2017-05-31 09:15:39
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Do Animals have souls?

Do animals have souls? are they themselves souls? Will they be saved from the corruption of sin? Does Jesus gift of salvation extend to animals? Would animals exist in paradise? Your answers are appreciated.

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Great question, great answer from Berrington. But do not underestimate the the power of the command(ment); for "In the beginning was the WORD...and the word was with GOD.... and the word was GOD...and God SAID..." What can we understand from this? possibly that before Speech existed there was only God; and God was a word, the Only word; an all powerful word; and as Berrington intimates, when the
word was made manifest through God's command "Let there be..." that command was irresistible. However, the introduction of man, not through commandment but by creation, might suggest that God in his loneliness, created a being in his own image; and breathed life into him. And filled him with the spirit of Life, that is to say a glimpse of Godliness, or God Consciousness. I can not agree with any suggestion that animals do not possess a Soul, and lack God Consciousness. Animals, have eyes, ears, nostrils, they eat, sleep, and multiply, all living things function in very much the same way......
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BUT, it may be fair to suggest that although animals possess God Consciousness, the difference between animal and man is that animal was not made in God's image. This may be the strongest (if not the only) difference between Man and Beast. Man maybe an extension of God. Hence, "the fear of him and the dread of him shall be upon them." But at some point, animals lost their fear and dread of Man, (probably when Man started eating the food designated for the animal.
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Because his own food was no longer readily available). All flesh is therefore proven corruptible. But if animals are made redeemable for paradise. How different from this world would Paradise be? Is not this world a preparation for an after life that is superior; flawless; unimaginable; from perfection unto perfection.
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Nice thoughts. But I still think Animals better not eaten and rather should be admired and friended since they bring so much Joy and Relaxation to us.
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Great answer @mikeygee. One of the differences btw a man and an animal is that man was "made" in the "image" of God but animals were words or utterances of God.
Image: a physical likeness or representation of a person, animal, or thing, photographed, painted, sculptured, or otherwise made visible. Source dictionary.com
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The statement made "in" God's image suggests that man was created to reflect God's spiritual nature.i.e God's life.

The Albert Einstein Memorial, a "lifeless" image molded in the likeness of Albert Einstein located in Washington DC reflects or represents the "physical nature" of albert einstein. In a similar vein, man, a "live" image created in the likeness of God reflects God's life. The image of Einstein reflects einstein's physical attributes but man who was "made" in the image of...
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..God was "made" to reflect the life or consciousness of God so while the image of einstein reflects einstein's physical earthly nature, the image of God reflects God's heavenly life, breath or Spirit. On the other hand, animals were "not"made in God's image meaning animals are not a mirror expression of God's life. They are reflections/manifestations of God's utterances.
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Command:"To direct with specific authority or prerogative; order:
utter:to give audible expression to; speak or pronounce: Source dictionary.com
An animal is an instruction of God be this and then they are that. An instruction or a commandment is a "specific" idea or a concept in a "vast" mind.This "specific" idea or concept is brought into being by being spoken forth audibly which explains why animals are restricted to a "specific" consciousness a goat forever eats grass and does not wear...
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.. clothes but man can evolve because man is more than just a mere commandment.
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@sarah I think the choice of eating or not eating animals should lie with the individual's conscience. Some people would argue that plant life also has consciousness and so eating them would mean killing life. They could also argue that plants constitute the beauty of nature. Plants grow, they 'drink' water. They use light during photosynthesis so they have a degree of consiousness and eating them would equally mean destroying life. Also, plants beautify the environment so eating them..
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would mean destroying the beauty of nature. As humans we are designed to eat so we have to 'destroy' life in some form in order to survive.

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It is my belief that every living creature has a soul regardless of its level of classification of species. As far as paradise yes they did exist in paradise in Eden according to the Bible and other texts though other texts refer to different terms. In the hereafter, that is yet to be answered and will only (just as the original question) be answered if and when that happens to each individual and based on their beliefs. Even then may never be answered thus creating a conundrum.
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Yes, I agree. And that is why I firmly believe that We would be better and healthier by not eating Meat and instead being Vegetarian.
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Yes, Animals have Soul for sure. Just see the Video of this Chimp turning back and hugging Goodal as she was going to release her. The question, is how is that Republicans such as Trump have NO Soul as per State of Healthcare in USA, or one Mass Shooting after another in USA such as Vegas killing 59 and these Republicans and Trump supporting the insane Gun laws that result in these Mass Killing of American People!

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3 months 3 weeks ago

Of course they do.
Question is whether our Commander in Chief, aka Psycho in Chief, has any Soul?
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Yes, well said. But how did we end up with such Soul-less person as Trump as president? Or with so many Americans Soul-less, from the White Supremacist in Charleston to USA having worse Murder rates among all developed Nations! How?
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I dont know. I really dont know how can some one as sociopathic as Trump get elected POTUS! Or for that matter how can any of these Republicans whom obviously do not really care about American People, as for example as per state of Healthcare in USA, ever get elected! I know in any country that is really a Democracy they would not.
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sarah, I do not know either. I really feel some sort of Enemy within has taken control of US Media and hence created these traitors Republicans. And lets face the fact that many Democrats are just as bad as Republicans. For example as per state of Healthcare in USA that referred to, it is not just Republicans that have failed to put into place Universal Healthcare that all other developed countries have, but of course it is also the Democrats too. So amazing :(

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5 months 2 weeks ago

They Sure do. Just look at this Guerrilla Dancing!!!


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WOW! That is some Dancing!
And you know this is indeed a good answer to this question, since Dancing is something that only Humans, with Soul do.
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That is a sight to see :)

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Hi everyone, while many of your responses came from diverse perspectives and opinions, they were really helpful and well appreciated.

In "my own" opinion, animals have souls or what I love to call a sense of "I-ness" or self but their souls are not as advanced as the souls of humans and therefore, they have less freedom than we do & also lack the ability to repent.

When God wanted to create animals, He uttered i.e commanded them into existence. i.e God commanded the earth and water to bring forth animals and they came forth. Animals are therefore utterances or instructions of God that come into physical manifestation & just like the instructions that are encoded into devices such as phones and computers, they cannot transcend their current programming i.e they were designed to be what they are which explains why most animals haven't advanced beyond what they were 6,000 years ago. The lamb is remains lamb. It is designed to eat grass and mate. The lion remains the lion....
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...It is designed to eat flesh. The eagle remains the eagle. It is designed to fly in the sky and feed on other animals e.g snakes. The vulture remains the vulture. It is designed to scavenge. Their beauty and individuality is expressed in their ability to be what they were instructed to be by the Creator.
Another thing about animals is that many of them demonstrate herd tendencies e.g small animals like ants, termites and bees & larger animals like buffaloes, wildebeests and zebras...
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....These group of animals work together as a whole i.e show little or no individuality or identity.
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On the other hand, when God wanted to create man, God didn't utter man into existence. God "created" man i.e formed" Him from dust and breathed into his nostrils breath/spirit. Man is more than just an instruction of God. He is a much more advanced self with the freedom to be or not to be.A man can choose to be a monk or an atheist. He can choose to be a vegetarian, a vegan or to eat meat. He can cover himself with clothing or to move around in a state of undress.
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He is designed to transcend his current state of consciousness i.e develop tools & become more technologically & scientifically advanced. He can evolve in intelligence & acquire the knowledge of how to go to the moon , invent machines that travel in the air, invent telescopes, telephones, tv and the internet which is why he has the ability to repent i.e to choose to transcend his fallen state (by the grace of Christ)
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So man has a much more advanced individual self i.e soul and therefore, he has the ability to change to become what God wants Him to be or to degrade to become what God does not want Him to be (Gen 3:6, Deut 30:19) but animals are programmed souls i.e selves. They are instructions of God that manifest what they are commanded to manifest. The president speaks and his Word is executed by his enforcers. The enforcers usually have to enforce the commandment even if they do not agree with it.
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. They have no other option than to obey it. (If they want to keep their jobs of course) But man is a creation of God. He is not merely an instruction of Let there be....and there was. He is a more free and independent self because he was created (i.e given more independence) which is why he has the ability to disagree with God (who is supposed to be his standard). Since animals cannot transcend their current state of consciousness, it means that they cannot on their own partake in God's...
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salvation. i.e stop being beastly and reflect God's ideal/original instruction/programming. They will only "share" in the salvation and liberty of those who put on Christ.
Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption "into the" (take note of the emphasis on into the) glorious liberty of the children of God. Rom 8:21

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We fell, they i.e animals reflected our fall

We repent and return to God's Kingdom, they reflect our renewed nature "in" God's kingdom (not outside it)

For the creature was made subject to vanity, "not willingly" (Notice the emphasis on willingly), but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Rom 8:20
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Great Follow UP to put the 'Finishing Touch' on this! God Bless you, Berrinton - Peace!

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Yes animals have souls and emotions and they are thiking,just look at there eyes and you will see.
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Yes, I totally agree. In fact I have rarely seen Souls as pure and kind as what I see when I look in the Eye of my Corgi and my Cat. I wish I could say the same for many People.

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Yes Animals have Soul. However not all Humans have Soul, such as Trump and the Wall Street Billionare class behind this tool and Republican lunatics like him.
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First I agree that animals have a soul. I can see it everyday in my Cat. With that said what has Trump done which is worse than what the Democrats have done?
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The last time I looked, killing unborn babies was an actual textual aspect of the Democrat Party official platform...
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GF, I assume by:
"killing unborn babies" you are referring to Abortion. So in fact 95% of Abortions in USA are due to the "Soul less" policies of the Republicans since typical Women in USA engages in Abortion because she has NO Healthcare and NO Maternity leave like other Developed Nations have, since USA thanks to Republican and Wall Street Billionaires lacks Universal Socialized Healthcare and Paid Maternity leave for Women.
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iz, I did not say that Democrats were really any better than Republicans such as Trump. They are both owned and controlled by the same all Street Billionaire Class. Which fact you can see by the fact that these 2 Parties:
1- Sell War after War after War after War, with Obama bombing 5 Islamic Countries vs Bush bombing 2 Islamic Countries
2- Have failed to put into place even the most basic of Social services which is Universal Socialized Healthcare, what the rest of the Developed World
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that is all European Nations, Canada, Australia, Japan, including Israel the beloved Nation of Republicans and right-wing, have had for many Decades.
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barista, although I agree with you that "Wall Street Billionare class behind their tool Republican" have No Soul, you have to face the fact that Democrats are just as owned by this Wall Street Billionare class. Just look at Obama and Clinton that waged more WARS than Bush with Hillary promising regime change in Syria! And why? Because Hillary was worried about Syrian children! Ha, what a laugh. What a Soul less person :(

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