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Okinawa1985

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Does GOD Intervene In Human Affairs, Particularly Politics?


Greetings Everyone, and Peace to YOU and YOURS!
For a time, I often wondered if GOD actually interfered (on occasion) in various human affairs? When I was convinced that from time-to-time HE has, and in the same frequency still does, I am further convinced that HIS interventions are SELECTIVE, and are intended to offset the "balances of powers" that may directly conflict with HIS time-frame towards the finality of HIS recorded prophecies. Today, such intervention has become necessary to offset Satan's own interventions up to this point. Obviously, Satan is the 'god' and/or 'ruler' of this system.. we understand that! As the ruler, Satan's hands are always involved in our affairs, and NOT to our GOOD. Therefore, to keep us from destroying ourselves prior to GOD'S selective timetable, HE intervenes on our behalf to offset Satan's progressive measures. Trump, as well as all political parties, especially the Republican Party, though getting a small taste now, are soon to feel the full impact of GOD'S direct interventions. Treason and Impeachments will become the battle cries. PEACE!

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BLASTMinistry


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Though God has given man 'free will', He does intervene in our affairs if we ask Him to. To know more about how all spiritual beings influence the lives of people everyday check out this website: http://invisible-spiritual-forces.webs.com/
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helpinghomeless


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Our God reigns Jesus WILL have his day! Rev: 1:7
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diamondtdesign


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Yes God intervenes! Don't you remember Moses?
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helpinghomeless 2 weeks 4 hours ago

Old Testament! new testament: Jesus taught us how to live, and serve Jehovah GOD. The next
time we see Jesus, It will be with his return


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mmerlinn


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If God exists why wouldn't He intervene?

If He does not exist, how could He intervene?
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MJThompson 2 weeks 4 days ago

Indeed, that's just common sense. The biblical account of God coming to earth as a man in
Christ is a perfect example of His intervention. The whole issue surrounding Christ's
crucifixion from a strictly worldly perspective illustrates God's intervening in human
politics. Pilot condemned Him to death for sedition - political treason!


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Flavius


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People intervene in human affairs, God never does. In fact it's up to each person the definition of God.
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BERRINTON


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...to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men. Dan 4:17
And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth. Exo 9:16

You asked a very tricky question and therefore it has to be addressed very carefully and holistically and therefore my answer is going to be quite lengthy. 1st of all, you are right when you claim that satan is the god and/or ruler of this system (2 cor 4:4) Satan is the god of this world order of sin, darkness and evil. The Bible tells us that everyone who sins is of the devil because the devil sins from the beginning (John 8:44) meaning satan is the originator of sin. The Bible tells us thus of God: God is light and in him is no darkness at all (1 John 1:5). It also tells us that God was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is "no" sin.
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BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

(1 John 3:5). It also tells us that God is


our righteousness (Jer 23:6) and that we become the righteousness of God in Him.
These verses imply that satan is the origin of evil/sin/darkness and God is the origin
of good/righteousness/evil.
There is no good in satan (John 8:44) and there is no evil in God (James 1:13) which
further means that good cannot originate from satan and evil cannot originate from God.

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

Now, the Bible and our consciences both make it clear to us that this world is a world of
sin. We see sin manifesting in different forms and taking on different shapes so it is
obvious that God is not the ruler or originator of all the evil that we see because he is
good 1 John 5:9 tells us the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one.

Even though God is not the ruler of this system, He is its "original" creator or
designer.

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

God could be likened to the creator of a cellphone that wasn't designed to be immersed in
water. As long as you keep the phone out of water i.e follow the makers operational manual
your phone would work properly. The devil could be likened to going against the makers
operational manual. Technically, satan is not god and satan is powerless but he derives
his power through our disobedience. If you obey God, all is well and satan has no power
over you.

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

If you disobey God, all is bad and satan i.e errors and malfunctions govern you meaning
you are the one who gives satan the power to become god by embracing error

If your cellphone malfunctions due to misuse, you naturally visit someone who
specializes in cellphones i.e someone who understands its makers design/programming. Only
the original designer (or those who have an idea of the original designers model) can fix
the phone. In the same way. if the soul disobeys God, it must return...

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

to God (as Jesus Christ) in order to be fixed.

Like I wrote before, God is the not the ruler of this system but He is its original
creator or designer which means that the world is God's (the same way that the cellphone
is the work of the creator) but the defect is not God's (just like the cellphone
manufacturer is not responsible/ liable for the defect caused by the users negligence) In
the original design,

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

God intended for this world to be good. But man through disobedience distorted God's plan
and it became evil i.e man's disobedience enthroned sin and satan. So the original and
perfect work became distorted and tainted by man's disobedience.
...to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of
men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men. Dan
4:17

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

But even though the creation became tainted by sin, it is still "God's" creation because
he made it i.e willed it into existence. It is God's creation working against God's
perfect will e.g a malfunctioned cellphone is not called a television. i.e another thing)
It is called a "cellphone" that doesnt work in the way it was intended and since it is
still God's creation despite the fact that it is working against God's perfect will, it is
therefore still subject to God's control

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

because in the ideal setting (i.e God's ideal creation i.e the way things are supposed to
be) God is the only power/ God in the universe. ISA 45:5 tells us "I am the LORD, and
there is "no" other, besides me there is no God; " The natural question that should come
to mind after reading this is why does 2 cor 4:4 call satan god when God tells us that he
alone is God in Isa 45:5? In reality satan is "not" god and satan has no power (e.g there
was no sin in eden, i.e satan was powerless. )

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

Satan is only god in this world because we disobey God's will. God is not "directly"
responsible for all the evil, wickedness, politics of deceit , chaos and disorder in this
world. Satan (who we empowered to be god with our disobedience) is responsible for all
that or to put it better, evil originates from satan or to put it as Jesus put it in John
8:44, satan is the father of lies. But because God "alone" God , He still has full control
over what happens because he is really the SOLE..

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

ruler: The malfunction exists as a result of the fact that the cellphone exists. No
iPhone no virus in iPhone. No creation no evil. So evil exists because creation (which
belongs to God) exists and therefore, even though evil isn't God's original intention and
doesn't originate from God, (i.e God's creation was initially good when it followed his
'operational manual') evil which originates from creation can be used to bring good. For
example, God used stephen's death for good. ..

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

God "moderates" what happens in this world. Sin originates from man. But creation which
sins originates from God. Since creation naturally belongs to God, even sin has a purpose
to fulfill in God's plan ..shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Amos 3:6. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil Isa 45:7
God allows evil in order to show man his power and fulfill his mighty purposes (Dan 4:17)

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

So Trump, Obama, Hitler, Pharaoh, Nebuchadnezzar etc were/are all sinful men who God
allows to fulfill a purpose in His plan e.g to expose sin for what it is, show us that the
answer to our problems are beyond human abilities and show his power in the world. God
doesn't just intervene once in a while, God ensures that even though evil reigns in this
evil world, at the end of the day, his glory and purpose is revealed. So evil (even though
it is empowered by sin) is ignorantly...

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

bringing God's plan to pass.

Trump or Obama, Hillary or bush, Republican, democrat, Tea party different names same
agenda. As long as it isn't Jesus we are picking ( whenever we choose men, ego) anytime we
pick sides we are choosing different sides/names of the same coin.

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

The Romans,the Babylonians, the Mesopotamian, the Persians, the Egyptians, the modern day
atheists and materialists etc different names but same objective idol/pagan worship (both
physical and ideational idolatry). One is uno, un etc. Different languages same thing.
Pick Jesus and you will see all contrary sides for what they really are: The same error
empowered by the ego.

Okinawa1985 1 month 1 week ago

BERRINTON, Peace to you and yours! As always, your "METAPHORS" are right on. If I may
agree with yours, (1) GOD'S rightful ownership of the Earth is based on HIM being the
Creator of it; (2) GOD has given the kingdoms of the Earth to Satan as the MOST
significant test to man; (3) Where politics and man are concern, a rose by any other name
is still a rose, just as a liar and fraud by any name is still a fraud and a liar; (4) In
the end, it all comes down to placing ones

Okinawa1985 1 month 1 week ago

Cont'd>> belief and faith in GOD.. which testifies to the fact that all other things
become relative at best! Peace!!

Okinawa1985 1 month 1 week ago

Oh, I forgot to add (5); Satan is only as strong as we are weak.

MJThompson 1 month 1 week ago

Berrinton & Cal - Great to see some sense on this issue, by both of you.If we focus on the
FACT that satan is the source of ALL ills on this planet & concede to the truth that ONLY
God is good, & as such, mankind's ONLY eternal hope - then we should all agree that NO
human magistrate, regardless of name or political affiliation, is going to remedy the REAL
problem = SIN! Jesus Christ ALONE can. Peace!

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

MJ, Exactly. We must not forget that we are pilgrims here. We are in the world but we are
not of the world and therefore, we should not expect any human magistrate regardless of
political affiliation, race, name etc to purge sin or usher in perfection. While we are in
this world, we must ask God to wound us with the wound of longing after God's kingdom so
that we wouldn't become content here on earth and forget about His eternal kingdom and so
that we wouldn't rest our hope in men.

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

The message of Christianity is perfection can "never" be attained by the man devoid of
God so when we expect perfection from any established authority of "this" world, we are
indirectly calling God a liar.
Jesus told Pilate that His Kingdom was "not" of this world. He told His disciples that
he was going to prepare a place for them that where He was there they might be. He also
told them to pray thus "thy kingdom come." We should strive for the kingdom of God.

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

because that is where perfection and sanity is found.

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

@Okinawa1985 True. Satan is only as strong as we are weak and conversely, satan is as weak
as we are strong (in Christ) and your observation GOD'S rightful ownership of the Earth
is based on HIM being the Creator of it; is also spot on. There is a saying that goes: The
owner of a slave owns (or has power over) everything that the slave owns. God created us
and therefore, God has power over everything about us so even when we are in sin, God
still has power and a say over everything that

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

...happens to us. God can be equated to a landowner and the sinner could be equated to a
stranger who (illegally) builds a structure on the land owned by the landowner.
Technically, the house belongs to the landowner and not the stranger/ builder because the
stranger does not own the land. i.e the owner of the land has a right to demolish the
structure anytime he chooses. God owns the creation and therefore the sin enthroned in the
creation is subject to His purpose.

BERRINTON 1 month 1 week ago

Everything that happens in this world no matter how evil and wicked it is has a purpose.
Jesus suffered unjust humiliation but it served a purpose . Joseph was unjustly sold into
slavery but it served a purpose. The Bible tells us how the evil reign of the beast in
Revelation would culminate in its defeat and the arrival of God's Kingdom so every evil
and injustice that we see in this world (even though they do not originate from God)
serves a purpose.

Okinawa1985 1 month 1 week ago

BERRINTON and MJ.. as always - Peace to YOU and YOURS! I hope both of you never move from
the reality of my UTMOST respect for YOU and what YOU bring to light in my mind and heart.
Yes, I go off track from time-to-time. I make no excuses. I allow myself to reflect
backwards and, thus, I get caught up in worldly matters that can't add one day to my life.
So, I've made the decision to focus MORE on the SPIRITUAL things that 'truly' matter - the
things that can add MORE days to my life. That

Okinawa1985 1 month 1 week ago

Cont'd>> doesn't mean I'll be perfect.. it simply means I'll be MORE focused on things
that matter MOST!

MJThompson 1 month 1 week ago

Cal - We all 'lapse' (reflect backwards) - when we take our eyes off Christ & forget WHOSE
we are & ponder worldly influences. I used manage a business that had many Spanish
speaking employees. I never 'formally' learned to speak the language fluently. But the
more I was around them, the more their culture & language influenced me. Ultimately, they
had me communicating with them in 'broken 'Spanish', completely superseding my intent to
have them speaking English! My point is that whenever two

MJThompson 1 month 1 week ago

people come together from different cultures or ideologies - one is bound to influence the
other more. It is rare that the influence is mutual, because concrete conviction that make
one unmovable are even more rare. Most people are like sheep - mostly followers, with
extremely few leaders. Therefore it is quite natural to be easily persuaded one direction
or another by one's immediate surroundings. That's why I appreciate the 'country' song
with the lyrics: "If you don't stand for something

MJThompson 1 month 1 week ago

you'll fall for anything". Equally 'influential' is the adage: "birds of a feather flock
together". Rarely do people willingly come out of their 'comfort zone' to objectively
investigate the FACTS supporting opposing cultures & ideologies. But when they do, either
YOU will influence them - or THEY will influence YOU. Peace!


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Is it just me or everyone too finds that Kid (person) standing next to Trump look exactly like Daemon from 666. WOW so Republicans Voted for Satan and his Son! Dont worry though, Wall Street Rich are getting richer like ALWAYS, with the Dow being up 10% since election of 666, and Israel is getting all she wants with Nutanayahoo being in Town today to check on his new tool in the White House. Ayayayay :(
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