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Posted On: 2017-01-25 23:26:19
How Many Persons Are In The Godhead?
"who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high" --- Hebrews 1:3.
The Trinity is a teaching on the Godhead based on Greek philosophy and pagan worship of triune gods. From the scripture above, how many persons of God does the Bible teach there are?
Deu 6:4 “Hear, O Ysrael: YHWH our Elohim, YHWH is one!"
Isa 45:5-7 "I am YHWH, and there is none else – there is no Elohim besides Me. I gird you, though you have not known Me, so that they know from the rising of the sun to its setting that there is none but Me. I am YHWH, and there is none else, forming light and creating darkness, making peace and creating evil. I, YHWH, do all these."
Everything else is a varion on the Trinity idea.
Many people don't realize this, but the Trinity is a teaching of the Godhead based on Greek philosophy and pagan triune Gods. It's a man made religion and contrary to the wotd of God.
1 Timothy 3:16, John 1:1 & 14, Isaiah 9:6, Zechariah 12:10, John 8:58 & Revelation 1:8.
These scriptures tell us that the Son was God Himself in the flesh, that Jesus is God who was manifest in the flesh as a man, as the Son of God. That the Son and God the Father are one in the same person. Jesus and God are one in the same. And the Holy Spirit is His Spirit. So there is no Trinity. God is one single individual & undivided God with no plurality of persons. Father, Son, & Holy Spirit are the same person, God, and His name is Jesus.
the trinity is compose of three person,GOD the father GOD the SON, and GOD the holy ghost ,as we learn from the teaching of JESUS CHRIST to his disciples i an my father his one he that believe yet in me believe in my father also ,we can see clearly what he was saying to them that the father and the son is one ,and then he also promise them that when he leave to go back to the father he would send them the comforter which is the holy ghost which is the third person of the trinity ,so here we have the GOD head, ,GOD THE father, GOD the son, and GOD the holy ghost the three in one,so then if the teaching of bible is right there should be no doubt in our mind who GOD his and what he expect of us each day, and that is to love the LORD with all our heart ,with all our mind and with all our soul ,and our neighbour as our self ,that is our duty and our devotion to the GOD of haven ,
When Jesus said the Comforter would come, the Holy Spirit, He alao added that He would not leave them comfortless, that He would come to them. Jesus was referring to Himself when He said the Comforter would come. He was referring to His Spirit. The Spirit of Jesus is the Holy Spirit. They're not 2 separate Spirits or persons, they're one in the same Spirit, the same person.
1 Timothy 3:16 says "God was manifest in the flesh". This tells us the Son was God Himself in the flesh. >
Jesus is God who was manifest in the flesh as a man, as the Son. The Son was God in human form. Isaiah 9:6 says the Son is also the "Mighty God" & the "Everlasting Father". So the Bible tells us that the Son & God the Father are one in the same person.
So there is no Trinity with God. That's a man made religion. The Father, Son, & Holy Spirit are one in the same perspn, not 3 persons. Jesus & God are the same. And the Holy Spirit is His Spirit.
in matthew 3: 16: ,when JESUS was baptized by John in the river jordan as he came out of the water the heavens were open unto him ,and he saw the spirit of GOD descending like a dove,and lighting upon him .and heard a voice from heaven saying ,this is my beloved SON in whom i am well please ,if GOD is one as you said why would GOD be speaking to himself like that ,he was not speaking to himself but to his SON,i have three sons but i am not my sons,i am there father and so is GOD,
Those verses only show different manifestations of God, it doesn't say they are 3 different persons. If the Bible tells us that Jesus and God are one in the same, then what does that tell you about those versrs you've presented? How does that apply to them? If the Bible says that "God was manifest in the flesh", meaning the Son was God Himself in the flesh, as a man, & says the Son and God the Father are one in the same, >
then we must use that as a principle with all scripture about the Son to get the correct interpretation and understanding.
If we apply that to those verses, then we know that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit aren't 3 different persons. They're manifestations, roles, and offices of God. The Son is a role that God had fulfilled in His plan of reedemption for mankind. That's why it seems like He's a separate person from God. Because it's a role that God played out as the Son. >
So when Jesus acted & spoke as the Son, including praying, this was God fulfilling the role of the Son, & acting & speaking as the Son. But sometimes He acted and spoke as God, like when He forgave sins or accepted worship, only God can do that.
In the baptism of Jesus, God provided 3 witnesses to bear witness that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. So He used 2 manifestations of Himself to bear witness to John the Baptist, His voice from heaven and His Spirit in a form like a dove. >
Also, Ephesians 4:4 says there's only "one Spirit", meaning only one divine Spirit, only one Spirit in the Godhead. So all references to a divine Spirit, like Spirit of God, Spirit of the Lord, Spirit of Christ, Holy Spirit, and the Spirit, are just different references of the same Spirit, the same person. And Romans 8:9 uses "Spirit of God" & "Spirit of Christ" as interchangeable terms, meaning they're the same Spirit, the same person. >
That's why Jesus refered to Himself as the Comforter. Because the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Jesus and the Holy Spirit aren't 3 different Spirits & persons, they're one in the same Spirit & same person.
And that's why Jesus said that where 2 or 3 are gathered together in His name He will be there in the midst of them. He was referring to His Spirit, the Holy Spirit. God's Spirit is everywhere & fills all the earth & all the heavens. That's how Jesus can be wherever 2 or 3 are gathered in His name, because His Spirit is everywhere. The Spirit of Jesus is the Spirit of God. Father, Son, & Holy Spirit are one in the same, God, and His name is Jesus.
"From the scripture above, how many persons of God does the Bible teach there are?". The Bible tells us in Hebrews 1:3 that God is one single person, or being. Notice that It says, "His person", as in one, and not, "His persons", as in more than one.
I think I know what might have happened. You were probably so used to thinking of God as being three persons that you automatically responded by saying that, instead of looking at what the verse says. >
1 Timothy 3:16 says that "God was manifest in the flesh". The Son was God Himself manifest in the flesh. So Jesus is God who was manifest in the flesh as a man, as the Son. The Son was God in human form.
Isaiah 9:6 says the Son is also the "Mighty God" & the "Everlasting Father". So the Bible tells us that the Son & God the Father are actually one in the same.
So there is no Trinity. Jesus and God are one in the same. And the Holy Spirit is His Spirit. >
Some "Christians" have problem with Holy Trinity and other things in Bible, so they have to twist Bible in many different ways to promote their heresy. "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." Matthew 28:19
Greetings Everyone, Old and New, and Peace to you and yours! I respect the scriptural-based comments posted by YOU on this subject. Fact is, however, Scriptures have a way of being interpretated based even more upon individual reasoning than they do GOD-inspired acceptance. Let's take Deuteronomy 6:4 as brother BERRINTON pointed out. We must assume, then, that GOD made the full state of HIS GODHEAD known to Moses, which enabled Moses to make that particular declaration. But we must also consider the belief in the idea that GOD is progressive in HIS nature, and would HE have revealed such to Moses during his lifespan? If we are certain that HE did, then Moses declaration points specifically to the actuality of the MOST common belief. If not, then we are faced with answering the question, "What exactly did Moses mean at Deuteronomy 6:4?" Was it based on only the knowledge Moses had at the time, or on the common belief of today?
There is one person, the man Jesus. For in Him all the fullness of the Godhead dwell for it pleased the Father
(Colossians 1:14-19). 1 Timothy 3:16 says, "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness; God was manifested in the flesh. Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory." John 1:1 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:14 says, "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten full of grace and truth." "There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all" (Ephesians 4:4-6). God is a Spirit (John 4:24).