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didimindex
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Posted On: 2016-12-17 16:21:54
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How did you get People to find your Web Site?

How did you get People to find your website?
Can you give me an idea?
What should I do to get our web site up to the top level in search engines?
Thank you.

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WhitbyDirectory
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1 week 4 hours ago

In short..

* Join forums and contribute in discussion and stick a link in your signature
* Submit your website to free directories and search engines
* Generate quality back links to your website
* Buy sensible advertising, Anoox advertising accounts offer great value.
* Keep pages relevant, error free and easy to read
* Keep things fresh, up to date and interesting and offer things for free which cost you nothing
* Repeat above over and over again
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GoldCoast
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6 days 16 hours ago

I think that is a great list.
Superbly done sir.

WhitbyDirectory
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6 days 6 hours ago

Many thanks.

Fardoush
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1 day 14 hours ago

Yes, I totally agree. This is indeed a very good list. Specially the 1st part that is:
Join forums and contribute in discussion and stick a link in your signature. And on that
note, I have found no better medium for contributing to the discussions and then getting
free traffic to my site than here Anoox. So that is 2 Thumbs by me to you all :)

WhitbyDirectory
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1 day 10 hours ago

If you search google for high PR forums it will give you a good idea which ones to be
members of. Its pointless using a PR1 forum for backlinks even if they are relevant. Aim
for PR 4 and above and to be more successful search for 'do follow' and high PR. Finally,
posting on relevant domains with high domain and page authority will reap greater rewards.
Check the banner ads and text links on this website. Some of those are also useful


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Mitch_Bu
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3 weeks 19 hours ago

Like many, I have tried Google Adwords before, as well as Bing Ads. These people trust huge amount of searches, so one would think "hey, how can I go wrong ?". Well, if you sell Gucci Bags and Rolex watches, that is probably quite fine, but at $5.00 a click on average for my CheckWriter-Printer.com site, it was eating up my lunch and the cat food in the process. I stopped before losing an arm and a leg in the process. In short, Adwords and Bing are not very far from a costly snake oil.

I need to add that I have been surprised by Anoox's clicks on my text ads. They are almost as many as the behemoths I referred to above. Except at 40 cents a click, it becomes feasible to advertise for my less than $20 software. Moreover, I was accustomed to click rates on 0.20% at most, and I see much higher numbers here.

Yesterday, I placed my first banner ad, and it seems to start well.

So, after referencing in major search engine, I tend to regard Anoox as a profitable advertising medium.
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GoldCoast
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2 weeks 6 days ago

Hi Mitch. This is great information mate. I had the same horrible experience Advertising
with Google :(
1st, my Advertising there was costing like $1800 a Month, and I could NOT find my Ads
online under any searches
2nd, I tried to contact their support and keep gettomg People in India which I could not
understand their accent :((((

So I was thinking of giving Anoox Advertising a try. After reading your recommendation
about em, I will. Thanks mate.

Mitch_Bu
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2 weeks 6 days ago

It's a real jungle out there. Google has really put its paw over pay per click, and driven
prices out of reach.

Mitch_Bu
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2 weeks 5 days ago

I have to share another resource I started to work with. The click in less than 3 cents.

It is based on keywords (which I got from Google adwords keyword tool).

Geolocalization is available, so I was able to limit ads to the US where my product
sells the most.

The ads are based on (paid) sites publishing the ads.

So far, I got a click through rate of 5.93%. That is much higher than my attempts at
Google adwords and Bing Ads.

http://www.bidver

GoldCoast
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2 weeks 5 days ago

MB, this http://www.bidver can not even be reached. On 2nd try it says:
"Domain for Sale"

And I would be very vary of these Sites that promise "3 cents" per Click :(
I mean where are they getting their Traffic from to begin with? To give us any clicks. I
mean this Anoox operates the only non-profit Search engine and offers many free Social
services, so it gets its Traffic from all these free services. Where would these other so
called cheap PPC sites get their traffic from!

Mitch_Bu
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2 weeks 5 days ago

Ouch. Typed too fast. Sorry.

http://bidvertiser.com

Mitch_Bu
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2 weeks 5 days ago

In this instance, they apparently pay sites to post the ads, and on the other hand, have
advertisers pay per click.

It is not because Google and Bing charge $5.00 per click that other less expensive
venues are necessarily suspect. Proof bein Anoox. Problem is, with only 2 million users,
Anoox is not enough to satisfy a campaign.

I frankly don't believe SEO can reach the levels described by vendors. It becomes
therefore vital to explore other venues.

Mitch_Bu
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2 weeks 4 days ago

Follow-up about Bidvertiser.com as well as Anoox.

It is not possible to do a direct comparison, since BidVertiser text ads incorporate a
small picture.

From what I see in a couple days, number of clicks of Bidvertiser are about the same as
Anoox Text ads.

Incidentally, I thought Anoox banner ad would bring in much more clicks than it does. At
this time, it represents about one third of the dozen text ads I run.

All in all, it is not adwords, but it is not ridiculous either.

GoldCoast
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2 weeks 2 days ago

Mitch, 1st thanks for the above Intel. Always like to hear from other Small businesses and
their Adv experiences.

A correction: Anoox does not have 2-Mill users, but 2-Mill members. Number of users
which would be like if me and you went to Google and searched on Google, do the same on
Anoox search engine, are much higher of course. For anyone can search on Anoox or read
these discussions forums without needing to be a member.


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Mitch_Bu
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3 weeks 4 days ago

Too bad you did not fill your profile, with an example of what your site looks like, because it conditions everything that will make it successful.

Don't try to chase 10 or more keywords. It is not worth it. Start with 5 keywords, and select one first. To choose keywords, I use Google's Keyword planner at https://adwords.google.com/ko/KeywordPlanner
You may need to sign up, but you should not put any money there. It will help you find the best keywords.

As a general advice, read and apply what is in The Google's SEO Starter Guide https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/www.google.com/en//webmasters/docs/search-engine-optimization-starter-guide.pdf

I have a web site in the top ten with keyword "MICR Fonts" : MICR-Fonts.com. Yes, the URL is also the keyword. It usually comes up as 5 in Google. I am not paid by Google, but since it has over 70% of the market in the US and some like 90% in Europe, any time you invest there will reward much more. Good luck !
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papa51
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2 months 2 weeks ago

First I would to know do you like to write? Do you believe in your product you're trying to sell or information you provide people? What keyword are you targeting? Are you willing to pay for advertisement to get your website notice? These are some questions you need to ask yourself. However, you can create a blog if you know a lot about your topic and can post every day - it's free (blogger.com)...And can monetize it anyway you choose. Another way is to write articles about your business or topic related to it to get people to your site at (ezine.com)...And add your website address in the resource box when you finish writing the article. Article marketing is a good way to get backlinks to your website and link juice that push your site up the ranks. Do a explainer video about your business, this will also help rank your site "My Simple Show" (www.mysimpleshow.com) - it's free to use.
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Panswer
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2 months 2 weeks ago

There are 2 Key ways to get People to find your Site, one is to have content on your Site
that is fresh and people want to link to. 2nd is to Advertise, and I have found no lower
cost or more effective Advertising than this non-profit Anoox network. So if your Web site
just offers something for sale, that is it is an online store, then effective Advertising
is best way to go.


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mmerlinn
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3 months 3 weeks ago

I do several things.

First, and by far the most important, is to make sure I have lots and lots of CONTENT pertinent to the mission of my website on my webpages.

Second, I make sure that my pages are as error-free as I can make them. Periodically, I run a few of my pages through a page validator to find any errors that may have crept in when I was not looking.

Third, I check the Google Console weekly for errors that Google has found, and correct those errors immediately.

Fourth, I maintain a sitemap for my site since there is almost no way Google can find all of my pages without one. For sites with less than 1000 or so pages, a sitemap is probably a waste of time, but my site has over 9000 pages, so using a sitemap helps Google find all of them.

If you want to be on top, it is very important to have USEFUL CONTENT on ERROR-FREE pages. On average, according to Google, my pages land in the #8 position on the FIRST page, so I must be doing something right.
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GoldCoast
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3 months 3 weeks ago

If you like for Profit Wall Street based Google so much, why are you then here on
non-profit non-Wall Street based Anoox?

So on that note, you want the most traffic to your Site, you will generally get it from
Anoox, either for free via being active on Anoox Social network. Or for low cost of
Advertising, as explained here:
https://www.anoox.com/paid/adv_low_price_how.php

mmerlinn
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3 months 3 weeks ago

Google may be for profit, but they get NONE of my money. Anything that works for Google
will work to a greater or lesser degree anywhere else. Since they are the elephant in the
room, it makes sense to me to use them as a yardstick to measure how my site is doing.

And I do have a question, though. If Anoox is non-profit as you claim, why are they
trying to make a profit by selling advertising?

GoldCoast
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3 months 3 weeks ago

Really! Selling Advertising pays their expense, so that they can provide us all with all
these valuable services. Selling does not equate to being for-profit. Most if not all
Non-profit organizations, such as all non-profit Universities, and other non-profits have
to have something to sell, otherwise they would not be able to pay their expenses since
Donations alone dont cover all expenses. And Anoox has a Donation program, here:
https://www.anoox.com/donate_to_anoox.php

mmerlinn
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3 months 2 weeks ago

So, you are telling me that as soon as the expenses are paid, they stop advertising just
so they don't show a profit? From what I see, they never stop advertising even when there
is a surplus of money. That sure looks like profiting to me.

GoldCoast
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3 months 2 weeks ago

Are you for real! "as soon as the expenses are paid"! People, developers, Salaries are
paid every Month. I guess when People at started working for Free, and the Servers are
Free, etc. then the "the expenses are paid", which is of course never, since People,
developers Salaries, need to be paid every Month.

OTOH, I am sure if you make a Donation of $10-Million per Month, which is what the
expenses of Anoox are on per Month basis, then they will offer Advertising for Free.

mmerlinn
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3 months 2 weeks ago

Bottom line is if their outgo does not equal their income, they are running a profit
organization.

Panswer
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2 months 2 weeks ago

You need to look up the meaning of non-profit body.
For example most Universities in US are non-profit, as are most in UK, Germany, etc..


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KarmaHillPhotography
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3 months 4 weeks ago

First figure out what product or service you have to offer.

Do keyword research using the free tools in Google Adwords to determine which of the words people are typing in most, for the products or service you offer. Watch Youtube videos on how to do keyword research to familiarize yourself with the process.

Start creating great content on your blog and website to meet the needs of what your target customers want to know about your product to build trust enough for them to want to buy from you. Spread the good content you created on your site and blog across social media sites. The spreading of your content will in turn create links back to your products and/or services.

Repeat again and again.
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GoldCoast
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3 months 3 weeks ago

Overall good advice. But the problem with Google Adwords is that it is so damn expensive.
And just gets more expensive. On top of that it is the most un-user friendly interface.
OTN, we opened a Google Adwords, spent like 10 Hours to creating the Ads and then spend
another 10 Hours with support from India that I could not understand :( So totally
frustrating experience :(

Mitch_Bu
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3 weeks 4 days ago

Adwords is usually OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive. Think about it. I sell mostly software at less
than $20.00. A single click is already $3.00 minimum, and more often $5.00. And a click
does not mean a sale. Far from it (with best of luck, takes 5-10 clicks for one sale). In
practice, unless you are selling expensive and high margin stuff, Adwords and Bing are
just a rip off.


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CrystalMIX
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3 months 4 weeks ago

I can to offer Facebook also. Facebook was cheaper and more effective for me in comparison with Google adwords.
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GoldCoast
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3 months 3 weeks ago

How much is your Facebook costing you Per Day and Per Month?
And what sort of traffic increase have you gotten from it?

And have you tried Advertising on Anoox? What did you, or do you, think about it
compared to Facebook?


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