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WHY DID JESUS CALL MARY "WOMAN"?

Why was a HOLY MAN rude to his HOLY mother?
This question has perplexed, puzzled, and mystified, millions of Christians for two thousand years. Unfortunately, nobody has been able to give us a credible, or satisfactory, answer until today.
The relevant information regarding Christโ€™s behavior can be found in JOHN 19:26 and
JOHN 2:3-4. The 5th COMMANDMENT (regarding honoring our parents) appears in EXODUS.
Some say that MARY was a victim of the prevailing MISOGYNOUS MINDSET caused by the harsh PATRIARCHAL SYSTEM and the repressive MALE DOMINANCE.
Women were frequently STONED TO DEATH for being unfaithful. This punishment did not apply to UNFAITHFUL MEN!
What are your thoughts on this subject?
Your comments will be greatly appreciated.
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And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! Matt 12:49
He wasn't being rude when he called her woman. That is "exactly" what she was. She was a woman (not a man or a goat) and He was her God. In the real spiritual sense of things, Mary is "not" the Mother of Jesus. She is His creation. Jesus is before Mary, before Abraham and before Adam (John 8:58) and Mary was therefore required to submit to His will, and not the other way around.
He is before "all" things, and in him all things hold together. Col:1:17
All things were made by him; and without him was not "any thing" made that was made. John 1:3
Mary is the "chosen vessel" that God her Creator used to bring Himself into the world in order to save mankind.
Finally, anyone who claims that Mary was the victim of a misogynous mindset must be (spiritually) blind and ignorant because Jesus was very accommodating of men and women alike. Mary, Martha, the lady with the issue...
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..of blood, the Samaritan woman, the adulterous woman in John 8 are some examples of women that Jesus showed compassion on (despite their unacceptable status in the eyes of the religionists of his day). In fact, when Jesus was killed, it was women that 1st visited his graveside so Jesus was in "no way" a misogynist. Misogyny is totally contrary to his message of reconciliation (to God) which was to save both male and female from the clutches of sin and satan
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Besides, despite the fact that Jesus was God and was perfect, for the sake of His mission to save his creation and out of love for His Father, he still humbled Himself by "choosing" to be subject to His "earthly" parents (including His Mom)
And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was "subject" unto them..Luke 2:51
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The Jews were the ones that did not accept Jesus the Samaritan woman and others did accept Jesus. He came to save the Jews but they would not accept Him and instead killed Him.
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Dear Mr. Berrinton,
Thank you for your response.
According to MATT 12: 46-49, Jesus was still talking to the people, when his mother and brothers arrived. They stood outside, asking to speak with him. So one of the people there, said to Him, "Look, your mother and brother are standing outside and would like to speak to you."
Jesus answered: "Who is my mother? Who are my brothers?" Then he pointed to his disciples and said: "Look, here are my mother and my brothers".
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Dear Mr. Berinton, (continued)
As you know, in those times there was no public transport, and not taxis, so they had to walk long distances from one village to another in the hot sun. They might have been very thirsty, or very hungry. They definitely needed a rest. The big question isl: Why did Jesus not interrupt what he was doing, for a couple of minutes to greet his family and ask them if they needed food and water? Would common courtesy offend his ego?
My father used to say:
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Dear Mr. Berinton, (continued)
"COMMON COURTESY, AND GOOD MANNERS, ARE INTEGRAL PARTS OF HUMAN DECENCY AND CIVILIZED BEHAVIOR."
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@Prophet, the truth must not be sacrificed on the altar of fellowship. If your definition of courtesy decency and good manners is to lie and deceive people in order to look good and proper then I think you had better take a look at what Jesus told the hypocritical pharisees in Matt 23:33 "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?" and what he called Peter in Matt 16:23 "Get thee behind me, Satan: " Yes!!! Jesus called Peter satan..
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because he was operating under the influence of Satan. Decency involves striving for the truth and saying it like it is. A lot of falsehood abounds today because we have become a complacent generation that dont want to hear the truth. We want prophets who support our lies and goad our lying egos. ...That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets ...
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, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:
Isa 30:9-10
The Great Lie is it is civilized to support and respect lies. Being civil is to stand up (like Elijah did ) for the truth
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As for your reply relating to the original topic, I think you admitted it yourself when you wrote: "Who is my mother? Who are my brothers?" Then he pointed to his
disciples and said: "Look, here are my mother and my brothers".
Jesus mother (& brothers) are those that do God's will, not Mary (and his earthly 'brothers') Jesus created Mary. Mary is His creation. Jesus created his earthly brothers (John 1:3) Jesus is their God.
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Besides, why this unfounded assumption? "They might have been very thirsty, or very hungry. Where did you see anything about them being hungry or thirsty? Why add your silly assumption to scripture? Is that what the Bible told you? Were you there? You may not realize it but you are acting in the exact way that eve acted in the garden. God told her for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die. But eve when questioned by the serpent transformed it into ye shall not eat it or touch..
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it lest ye die. Where did touch it and lest ye die come from? From her imagination of course.

And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.2 Tim 4:4
Jesus had "no" ego. How can the Almighty and All sufficient God who showed the perfect example of humility by becoming a man be said to have ego? He simply told the bitter truth. These are not my mother and brethren. That was the truth. They were his creation not his mother and brethren and they were..
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..supposed to submit to His will, so when he made that statement, he was telling the bitter truth and trying to open his disciples eyes to a higher truth, that his real mother and brethren are those that beget his nature in their hearts and thus become his brethren.
Besides, the fact that he stated the truth didn't mean that he hated his (earthly) brethren and mother. Jesus was subject to his (earthly) parents and he had nothing against his earthly brother.
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But he had to say the bitter truth rather than sacrifice it on the altar of my earthly mommy and brothers. The religion of Relationships teaches us to, like Adam, โ€œhearken unto the voiceโ€ of those we love rather than the One Who created them while the Truth (who is Jesus) teaches us to like Jesus say things as they are instead of trying to appeal to mommy daddy and brothers.
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters,...
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..yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:26
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Beside,s if he hadnt stated it, then how would we know today that we (the disciples) are Jesus mother and brethren? Sometimes, we humans are so shortsighted. We look for short term gratification at the expense of long term benefit. Lets "assume" that your assumption is correct that Jesus mom and brethren were thirsty or hungry. Where are they today? They are long dead (physically) But the eternal effect of that truth is still yielding results today in the life of many believers.
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Jacob exchanged the gratification of a temporal meal of porridge for a longer lasting birthright but Esau was so shortsighted. Now, Now, Now. I go by what I see and how I feel. I'm hungry. I have to eat. Who cares about a silly birthright that cant satisfy my hunger now??? Try and see the bigger picture. The eternal effect instead of focusing exclusively on the now.
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Good Comments BERRINTON and true to the Bible! God Bless you.
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Dear Mr Berrinton,
Are you trying to tell me that Jesus was perfectly justified when he refused to call Mary "mother"?
Are you trying to tell me that Jesus was right when he refused to greet his mother and brothers who were very tired, thirsty, and hungry when they visited Him?
Are you trying to tell me that calling your mother "woman" is not disrespectful"?
Please clarify those points for me.
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Some scripture is required here:

1 Peter 2:21-22King James Version (KJV)

21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
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@prophet I am trying to tell you that in the real sense, Mary was not Jesus mother. Jesus made Mary. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. John 1:3
I am trying to tell you that your claims that Jesus brothers and mom were tired , thirsty and hungry are merely a figment of your own imagination. The Bible "never" mentioned anything like that.
I am trying to tell your carnal, logical, & 'outer show' mind is enmity with God...
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and cannot see past the veil of the flesh.
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Rom 8:7.
I am trying to tell you to look past the false appearances and pretenses of the flesh.
Do not judge according to appearance, but judge the righteous judgment. John 7:24
Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man....John 8:15
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When you look beyond the apparent appearances of your carnal mind to the real spiritual import of scripture, you would realize that Jesus was 100% justified for his actions.
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Very well said BERRINTON!
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Dear Mr Berrinton,
Thank you for your lengthy comments.
Unfortunately, I am a very busy man who seldom finds enough spare time to read very long ANOOX comments. I usually read the first ten lines, and if the comments are pertinent, I continue reading the rest.
Your interpretation of MATT 12:49 gave me the impression that you are not likely to give the world an impartial answer to the 2,000 year old question.
Thanks for trying, anyway.
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Dear Mr Berrinton,
Godโ€™s Ten Commandments are fundamental to the Jews, the Christians, and the Muslims.
Jesus was raised as a Jew, and was conversant with the OLD TESTAMENT from an early age.
He knew that people who break Godโ€™s Ten Commandments commit the ULTIMATE SIN.
When Jesus violated Godโ€™s FIFTH COMMANDMENT, by being disrespectful to his mother,
He alienated most of his fellow Jews.
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Dear Mr. Berrinton, (continued)
Hence the overwhelming vote to release the robber BARNABBAS AND CRUCIFY JESUS.
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Dear Mr Berrinton, (continued)
When Jesus was on the Cross, He uttered the words: โ€œMY GOD, MY GOD, WHY DID YOU ABANDON ME?โ€ (MATT 27:46).
Those 9 words convinced the Jewish priests, and the Jewish elders, that Jesus was a
โ€œSELF-PROCLAIMED DEITYโ€ who aspired to usurp GOD; but failed miserably.
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For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. Gal 1:10
@prophet, The truth does not seek to appeal to the sensitivities of men neither does it bow down to our ignorance or insecurities. It is what it is so it is either we accept it or reject it. I have stated the truth so it is up to you to accept it or reject it.
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Lies need support. Lies need to look proper and appeal to the mass mind in order to exist but the truth is strong enough to stand on its own. It doesn't need anyone to believe in it. Grass remains green irrespective of whether the world believes it is black or blue.
Your statement "Godโ€™s Ten Commandments are fundamental to the Jews, the Christians, and the Muslims shows your ignorance of Christianity. Have you read Rom 3:20 before? "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall...
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"no" flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Rom 3:20 What do you understand by the statements "by the deeds of the law shall no flesh be justified" and "the law is the knowledge of sin"? Have you read 2 Cor 3:6 before? "Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." The letter kills. The letter (the deciphering of the carnal mind) kills. It is the spirit..
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..behind the letter that gives life which is why I wrote earlier on that the carnal mind is enmity with God. Your fleshy way of deciphering/decoding scripture is the cause of your enmity for the flawlessness of Jesus. The fleshy (literal) letter law kills. The Spirit behind the law (or the real meaning of the law which Christ unveils) gives life. Besides, since you claim that Jesus violated the 5th commandment ", then why didn't you also cry foul about the fact that Jesus broke Lev 20:10..
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..when he spared the adulterer in John 8? Besides, if you are not stoning adulterers to death, then it means you are a violator of the law and also a hypocrite for castigating Jesus 'oversight' of the law because you are very conversant with the law that an adulterer must "not" be allowed to live.
Finally, if you are so busy that you read lack the time to read long comments (even though your own comments are usually quite long), then I guess its better you dont waste your time and ours ...
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...by posting questions to anoox. Majority of the people who post on anoox are also busy people but despite their tight schedules, they believe that anything worth doing is worth doing well and therefore they are ready to give all they have into what they do.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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For he knew that the chief priests had delivered him for envy. Mark 15:10
And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain. Acts 13:28
Your statement ""Hence the overwhelming vote to release the robber BARNABBAS AND CRUCIFY JESUS." Shows how shallow, unjust and blind you are. So in your own shallow and skewed judgment, it was better for a thief and robber to live than for a righteous and sinless man who wasn't found guilty of any crime to live?
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Your own judgment shows the kind of twisted mind that you have, the kind of mind that would rather conform to the majority than obey the truth. The kind of mind that is scared of standing on its own.@prophet: "Hence the overwhelming vote"..Christianity is not a democracy and it is "never" the path of the majority so its adherents dont seek to appeal to the hive mind. They stand alone. "But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a "peculiar" people; ...1 Pet 2:9
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Matthew 7:1-3King James Version (KJV)

7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
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@DEN14 1st of all, you judged when you wrote :"Very well said BERRINTON! " Why did you judge my statement as being well said? Who made you the judge that determines whether my statements are well said or not? You who tells people not to judge is judging and that shows a lot of hypocrisy on your part. Besides, you failed to quote the verse in its complete context " You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will "see clearly" to remove the speck from your..
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..brother's eye. Did you see that? Jesus is not saying dont take the speck in your brothers eye. He is saying take the one in your eye out 1st so you can see clearly to remove the one in your brothers eye. In other words, when you remove the thing that keeps you from seeing clearly, you will also be able to judge without impediment.
Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? 1 cor 6:2
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And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.1 Cor 10:6
Did you see that? You "revenge" or judge all obedience when your own obedience is fulfilled
Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. Jude 1:14-15
Did you see...
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that? The Lord comes with ten thousands of his saints to "execute judgment upon all" So yes!!! we are to judge when we attain maturity and unhindered vision or in Jesus words, when we have removed the beam/plank in our own eyes.
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And if you think you have removed the plank in your own eye and can therefore detect a beam in my eye why dont you expose the beam to me instead of misquoting scripture to suit your own purposes.
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Dear Mr Berrinton,
I am sorry to disappoint you, but those thousands of words you typed in your last comments will never be read. Why? Because, as I have already explained to you, I am a very busy man who cannot spend hours reading irrelevant and immaterial comments.
My POST'S QUESTION IS VERY SIMPLE AND REQUIRES A SIMPLE ANSWER.
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@prophet How come you were not too busy to reply? and how do you know that they were silly and immaterial comments if you didn't read them? Your statement "Because, as I have already explained to you, I am a very
busy man who cannot spend hours reading irrelevant and immaterial comments. " is a sly way of saying, berrinton, I have no point i better save face by running away before I make a big fool of myself. Nice try, however, its an outworn and childish trick so I wasn't fooled.
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Dear Mr Berrinton,
i have already explained to you TWICE, IN PLAIN ENGLISH, that you are wasting your time sending me lengthy irrelevant, immaterial, and insipid comments, simply because I refuse to read them. WHY? Because, unlike you, I am very busy writing a very important book that will be a million dollar seller.
i am not surprised when some people disagree with my posts, and comments.
Unfortunately, Christianity is the most divided religion in the world.
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Dear Mr Berrinton,(continued}
If you do not believe me, please check WIKIPEDIA'S: "LIST OF CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS".
in conclusion, I would like to advise you to find something useful to do with your
life.
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John Romer
P.S. ALL FURTHER COMMENTS FROM YOU WILL BE TOTALLY IGNORED.
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Mr prophet, Your latest comment demonstrate how shallow you are and why it is practically a waste of time exchanging with you. How did you know that my comments were irrelevant, immaterial, and insipid when you claimed that you didn't read them? The only way to deduce if my comments were irrelevant, immaterial, and insipid is by reading them and your willingness to dismiss them without reading them show that you are shallow and very biased.
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As for your statement: i am not surprised when some people disagree with my posts, and comments. Of course, you ought not to be surprised because your argument is dumb and silly. It doesn't hold water at all. As for your delusion :"Christianity is the most divided religion in the world." Christianity (in the real sense) is not a religion & it is not divided (1 cor 1:13). It is united. What you refer to as the christian religion is babylon the whore (churchianity) packaged as christianity
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I guess you should be the one taking your own advise in conclusion, I would like to advise you to find something useful to do with your
life. You are obviously the one who is jobless. You don't put your brain to work. You are too biased and blind to read other people's posts and that is the reason why you are swimming in your illusions. You are like Stacey Keach, a character in the movie the NINTH configuration,who is a patient in a mental hospital, but thinks he's the Head Psychiatrist.
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And since you appear to be a people pleaser that loves to go with the majority, here's some advise for you " The truth is an enemy of humanity. So, if you are a slave to the mass mind, then you will forever keep the truth at arm's length. Therefore, you must pick one: humanity or the truth. He that wants to be the friend of the world makes himself the enemy of God (James 4:4)
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"Truth is beyond social acceptance. Truth is maladjusted and cannot fit into the massively dumb patterns of ordinary relationships and activities. ... Greater truth cannot come to those who never bring up the possibility of it to one another. ... People do not inquire beyond their knowledge because they do not want to have any disturbing shift in their knowledge pattern... Gabriel Chiron, "Truth is Greater Than Man"
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Iesous called Mary "woman" because he created her to be a woman.
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Dear Jerome,
With all due respect, JESUS DID NOT CREATE HIS MOTHER. THE OMNIPOTENT CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE CREATED HER.
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John Romer
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Jesus is the Word and he made all things as per this scripture:
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:1-3
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Dear "DEN14"
As you probably know, the OMNIPOTENT CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE has many ATTRIBUTES. One of those ATTRIBUTES IS THAT HE IS ETERNAL. in other words, nothing existed before HIM and nothing will ever replace Him.
If you disagree, please refer to the following site: http://eternalbliss1.tripod.com
I am not surprised when some people sometimes disagree with my comments and POSTS. This is due to the fact that CHRISTIANITY IS THE MOST DIVIDED RELIGION IN THE WORLD.
John Romer
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In this verse John 19;26, the identity of the disciple whom Yeshua loved is John, the son of Zebedee and brother of James,(Matthew 4:21). Yeshua knowing he was going to die, and that he was the head of his household,and made what a man have to do, make sure that all women in his care will be taken care by someone who was able to love her as Yeshua did. So he told her to go with John and told John to take care of her as his own mother.

Yeshua is obeying the scripture: Exo 20:12 "Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee".

Blessings
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The expression "Woman" in John 19:26 is just because of a change in tone, in use at the time of Yeshua. She knew with that change in tone, that he was taking control of problem of his death. It was a enfathic expression, not something against her mother or her femenine way of seeing life. The same as in John 6:3-4.
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Dear YosefMarques,
Thank you for your response.
Jesus was not the head of his family. Mary had a husband (JOSEPH) and several adult children, who were quite capable of looking after the welfare, and protection, of their parents.
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John Romer
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34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. 37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.Matthew 10:34-37 KJV
Mary was a woman. Jesus was God. Jesus just called His mother Mary by her rightful name, woman!
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Who says Jesus was rude? Mary was a woman and He called himself Son of Man & Mary was the woman who gave Him birth. Jesus would never go against the Commandments and not honor His mother. He was honoring her by giving her someone to look after her after His death and resurection. According to Jewish custom the children looked after the parents and John was going to live a long time. Why bring up Mary and unfaithfulness? Males throught out history are always dominent they are built that way, they hunted, farmed and worked while women took care of his children and protected his family against intruders. But to say women had no say read Esther, and many other women of the Bible.
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I agree with you Golfer. God Bless you!!!
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Dear Golfer,
Mary did not need someone to look after her. She had a husband (Joseph), and several adult children who were quite capable of looking after the welfare, and protection of their parents.
Kind regards,
John Romer
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