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Do the righteous all go to Heaven?

If so, then why did Jesus pray to his Father, "Your kingdom come, Your will be done in earth, as it is in heaven"?
Where is King David going to live?

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If you are righteous according to the Bible, you would be in right standing with Jesus Christ.
If I am in right standing with Jesus I am assured of being with Him in eternity.

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John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? No man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. (Eden is closed. Remember?)
Mat 9:24 He said unto them, Give place: for the maid is not dead, but sleeps And they laughed Him to scorn.
Joh 11:11 These things said He: and after that He saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleeps; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be His people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Luk 17:20 And when He was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, He answered them and said, The kingdom of God comes not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold,
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the kingdom of God is within you.
Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. (Coming down to Earth. Not that we go there.)
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"Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Whose hands have gathered up the wind? Who has wrapped up the waters in a cloak? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, and what is the name of His son? Surely you know!" (Proverbs 30:4)
John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

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Iesous was praying for God's will, which is mercy and righteousness, be manifested throughout his earth as it is already manifested in his heaven. And yes, all the righteous go live in heaven, and all the unrighteous are tormented in hell.
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King James Version (Psalm 37:29)
The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.

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The righteous will inherit the land and dwell in it forever.

New Heart English Bible
The righteous shall inherit the land, and live in it forever.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And the righteous ones inherit the Earth and dwell upon it for eternity.

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The righteous shall inherit the land, and live in it forever.
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BroRando, you need the right context and right meaning. The meaning behind these scriptures is that the righteous, and their offspring, generation after generation will occupy upon the earth, while the wicked lives are cut short and they perish prematurely. It is appointed to humans once to die, and then the judgment. And God consumes this earth and the heavens by fire, and then he creates a new earth and new heavens wherein righteous dwells. And sin will not rise up a second time.
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Thank you Jerome. Some are already dying the second death which is everlasting death with no prospect of being resurrected. Destruction is symbolized by fire from the heavens including the lake of fire. Adam and Eve died the everlasting death not to be remembered for a resurrection.

"For there is no remembrance of the wise more than of the fool for ever; seeing that which now is in the days to come shall all be forgotten. And how dies the wise man? as the fool." (Ecc 2:16 KJV)
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BroRando, Although all flesh dies, as you say, the wise and also the fool alike. But there is a difference. When a sinner dies in their sin, they will be raised up with their sin in front of the Judge of all the earth, and their lot is torments in the lake of fire and brimstone. And when the righteous dies in their righteousness, they wil be raised up with their righteousness in front of the Judge of all the earth, and their lot is bliss in paradise together with the Lord.

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"In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever," (Daniel 2:44)

Jesus prayed to the God of Heaven, "Your kingdom come, Your will be done in earth, as it is in heaven" therefore he taught his disciples, "Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword." (Matthew 10:34)

Soon, all wickedness will be removed from the earth so that the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ can be worshiped without demonic opposition and JEHOVAH'S name will be vindicated WORLDWIDE.
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Jesus or Yeshua is the name above ALL names, even above God's name Jehovah or Yahweh!
God's kingdom on this Earth is only going to be for 1,000 years.
Are you a JW, BroRando?
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Yes and so is Jesus. "These things said the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;" (Rev 3:14 KJV)
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The Kingdom will never be destroyed. (Daniel 2:44) However, at the end of the 1,000 years, Jesus hands the Kingdom back to his God and Father. (1 Corinthians 15:24-25)
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Jesus is God, BroRando!

http://JESUSisGOD.com/PROPHECYCHARTJESUSISGOD.htm

There are way too many scriptures which show that Jesus is God Almighty.

Anyone, like you BroRando, who continually try to force-feed the lie that Jesus is not God Almighty, are NOT Born Again.
If you were BORN AGAIN you would KNOW that Jesus is God.

Teaching lies is INIQUITY, and you are a worker of iniquity, BroRando.
Do you know what Jesus said will happen to workers of iniquity?
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I would be willing to listen to you. Can you show the forum one scripture that states Jesus is Almighty God? Use any Bible you like. Thanks.
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I have 267 verses showing that Jesus is God, and that just scratches the surface.
I gave you a link to my PROPHECY CHART, and that is sufficient.
I could post some of the scriptures here, but BroRando, you would just reject them, because you are a worker of INIQUITY!
Until you repent and ask Jesus to come into you and save you you will NOT be able to receive the scriptures for what they are.

GET BORN AGAIN!
http://www.jesusisgod.com/Blog/questions/question/how-do-you-become-born-again
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Just one scripture that states Jesus is Almighty God would suffice. Thank you.
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Isaiah 7:14-15 Isaiah 9:6 Micah 5:2 John 1:1, 3, 10, 14
John 8:56-58 John 14:6-9 2 Corinthians 5:17-19 1 Timothy 3:16
John 1:10 1 Corinthians 8:6 Ephesians 3:9 Colossians 1:16
Revelation 4:11 Revelation 10:6 Revelation 21:5 Revelation 22:3-4
Luke 2:10-11 Luke 24:21 John 4:13-14 John 4:42 Galatians 3:13-14
Philippians 3:20 Titus 1:4 Titus 2:11-14 1 John 4:13-15
Acts 20:26-28

There you go.
Now, are you going to tell me that Jesus is not God?
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That last verse is the real kicker!

Acts 20:26-28 KJV
26 Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men.
27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

HOW CAN GOD PURCHASE US WITH HIS OWN BLOOD?
HOW CAN GOD HAVE BLOOD UNLESS HE IS CHRIST?
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The very last part of Acts 20:28,
"which he hath purchased with his own blood."
is referring to the Holy Spirit AND God.
The Holy Spirit is God!
Or, do you refute that too?
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Saintly Mic - like pearls to swine, but I commend your proclamation of truth for those who may have ears to hear & eyes to see! Ask a JW why their Bible (NWT omits Ac. 8:37? Even e footnote is spurious at the very least! Peace!
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Thank you, MJThompson!

Acts 8:37 KJV
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Here's the proof JW's removed verse 37.
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/acts/8/#v44008037

It is clear why they removed verse 37.
They are antichristian, because they deny the true meaning of Christ as the Son of God.
JW's have to believe Jesus is God in order to be saved.
Very sad.
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I am still patiently waiting for you to come up with a scripture that quotes "Jesus is Almighty God".

Believing 'Jesus is God' does not beget salvation nor can you show such a scripture. Peter said to them: “Repent, and let each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the free gift of the holy spirit." (Acts 2:38)
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Simon Peter answered: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” (Matthew 16:16)

"In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Joʹnah, because flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but my Father in the heavens did." (Matthew 16:17)

Now please show the forum the scripture of Your Foreign teaching that "Jesus is Almighty God".
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God spoke through the prophet Isaiah 45:22-23, "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear."

So every knee will bow to only one being who is that?

Philippians 2:10-11 has the answer.
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"That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
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Further proof that Jesus is God is found in Acts 7. Who did Stephen pray to when he was being stoned? Acts 7:59, "And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep."

Perhaps, the best evidence for the trinity is found in 1 John 5:7-8, that says...
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"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."
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Of course Jesus is God. This is just basic Christianity 101 stuff!
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"every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father" (Philippians 2:11) :-)

Where's the scripture that states "Jesus is Almighty God"? Still waiting...... if the best you can do is toss insults and then claim you are saved. That person claiming such is in error. Here, you want slap and flogged me also for giving witness that Jesus is the Christ?
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My comments to you, BroRando were not intended as insults.
You are a worker of iniquity, BroRando.
And, besides that, I gave you your scripture up above.
I also gave you almost 50 verses showing that Jesus is God.
And, not only that, but I gave you a link to my PROPHECY CHART, which has 267 verses showing that Jesus is God.
You just don't want to even try to look.
If you honestly cared you would be paying attention to what I have been telling you.
You have also falsely accused me.
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You're unable to show one scripture that states, "Jesus is God".

If God is everywhere then there would be No Need for Jesus to pray to the God of Heaven, "Your kingdom come, Your will be done in earth, as it is in heaven"
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"Saying, Father, if you be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but yours, be done." (Luke 22:42) Another prayer from Jesus to "the God of Heaven".
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BroRando,
What you are doing is trying to say that Jesus cannot be God because he was a Man.
You will undoubtedly say then that Jesus is not God because He was an angel, or something.

What you are forgetting is Jesus wasn't an angel.
The scriptures are clear that Jesus was NOT an angel.

Now, Jesus was most definitely a man, born of a virgin, and He is the Son of God.
Christ didn't become God.
Christ is God becoming a man.
Christ, as a man, is subject to God, because He is a man, too.
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BroRando,
The muslims do eaxactly as you are doing.
Muslims point out the humanity of Christ to try to convince people that Jesus is not God.
The problem with that is, you and the muslims are IGNORING the scriptures which clearly say Jesus is God.
And, you use a Bible translation which twists the scriptures in an attempt to make Jesus look like He is not God.
Again, I say, it is INIQUITY to teach that Jesus is not God.
Jesus will one day tell you,
"Depart from ME you who work INIQUITY!"
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"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;" (Matthew 5:44)
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Matthew 1:23 (New International Version)
23 "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel"—which means, "God with us."

Isaiah 7:14 (New International Version)
14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.

John 10:30 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
30 I and my Father are one.
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John 14:6-9 KJV
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
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Thank you so much for sticking to the scriptures, it's very much appreciated.

"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone." (Luke 18:19 NIV)

“And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46 KJV)
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Yes no one is good except Jesus and we humans have sinned and come short of the Glory of God! Jesus was in very great pain on the cross and it was so bad that He called out to the Father. He was dying for the sins of the whole world! His suffering was very grate! But because He suffered and died on the cross for our sins He has the right to be our God and we should ask His forgiveness of our sins and repent and praise and glorify Him and thank Him and be grateful to Him always!
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No one is good except God alone. So is Jesus bad? Isnt Jesus good? and if Jesus is good, doesn't that make Him God?
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Ephesians 3:14

King James Bible
For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

International Standard Version
This is the reason I bow my knees before the Father of our Lord Jesus, the Messiah,

Jubilee Bible 2000
For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ

King James Version
For this cause I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
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American Standard Bible (1 Peter 1:3)
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

King James Version (1 Corinthians 1:3-4)
Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;

Berean Study Bible (Luke 18:19)
"Why do you call Me good?" Jesus replied. "No one is good except God alone.
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None of the verses that you quoted addresses my questions. So is Jesus bad? Isnt Jesus good? and if Jesus is good, doesn't that make Him God? I didnt ask you to quote endless verses. I asked simple questions.
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King James Version (John 17:1)
These words spoke Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify your Son, that your Son also may glorify you:

King James Version (John 17:3)
And this is life eternal, that they might know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
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Since you don't believe in the Word of God, why would believe me?? According to my Lord and Savior he stated, "No one is good except God alone.

Berean Study Bible (Luke 18:19)
"Why do you call Me good?" Jesus replied. "No one is good except God alone.

King James Version (1 Peter 3:18)
For Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
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ow ludicrous to continue ranting about a lack of scriptural evidence of the deity of Christ by a person who has never yet acknowledged that his preferred ‘scripture’ is an heretical attempt at changing scripture to fit a false doctrine.& claiming it is merely a new ‘translation’. NONE of the publishers commissioned to compile the NWT wee even scholars of original biblical languages! Then he posts - “Repent, and let each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for
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forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the free gift of the holy spirit." (Acts 2:38), but doesn’t capitalize the “Holy Spirit” because JW’s don’t believe He is God either. However, the name “the name of Jesus Christ” saves & is over ALL names – NOT Jehovah. In fairness, show me one scripture that states otherwise. If names are important, why ignore Isaiah when he prophesied about the names by which Christ would be known?
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“For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace” – Isa. 9:6. There he clearly identifies Christ as “SON”, “COUNSELOR” (a name also given to the Holy Spirit), MIGHTY GOD (not “a” less than Almighty God). “EVERLASTING FATHER” – there’s your scripture.
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Actually Isaiah 9:6 speaks about the 'deity of Christ'. For instance Wonderful Counselor in the KJV what separated to read Wonderful, Counselor. Notice a comma was INSERTED. Why? Wonderful Counselor in the Greek Septuagint actually reads "Angel of Great Counsel". Heaven forbid if you found that out.
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“EVERLASTING FATHER” acually read "Father of the New Age". Mighty God is lesser than Almighty God. "my Father is greater than I." (John 14:28 KJV)

Prince of peace can also be rendered "Angel of Peace". Have you NEVER READ (Isaiah 63:9 KJV) ?????
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King James Version (Isaiah 63:9 KJV)
In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bore them, and carried them all the days of old.

Who carried our sins? Who bore our sins? Who carried our sins?
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Christ is the Angel of Jehovah... http://jesus-rlbible.com/?p=329
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Study this third party article it makes some valid points. "An angel of Jehovah who speaks for Jehovah is often referred to as Jehovah. It is true that certain scriptures seem to imply that Jehovah was speaking directly to humans, but a comparison of scriptures shows that Jehovah was actually speaking through or by means of his angel(s)." http://jesus-rlbible.com/?p=329
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Mat 27:43 He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.
Luk 22:67 Art thou the Christ? tell us. And he said unto them, If I tell you, ye will not believe:
Luk 22:70 Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am.
Luk 22:71 And they said, What need we any further witness? for we ourselves have heard of his own mouth.
Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in
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whom I am well pleased.
(Who is speaking from Heaven? Is Jesus talking to Himself? Is God talking about Himself? Who resurrected Jesus?)
Joh 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. (Which is what everyone who says Jesus is God is doing.)
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Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, You are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
Does Jesus lie? If He is the Son, He will confess it is so. That's what He said.
Joh 5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
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Joh 7:28 Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but He that sent me is true, whom you know not. But I know him: for I am from Him, and He has sent me.
12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, HE gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
Joh 12:50 And I know that His commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said
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unto me, so I speak. (Because He is the WORD of God)
Joh 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go to the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
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So is Jesus now God again, and is He going to reincarnate Himself AGAIN to come get us, or rule on Earth? Is God going to be the Bridegroom now? Or Jesus? Or is He going to be GodJesus?"
What part of "I am the Son of God" don't people get? If Jesus is God then God did not send His Son, but incarnated Himself as a man, named Jesus, who resurrected Himself from the dead. And, oh yeah, called out to Himself as He was dying for you.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzkzpD0MOB4&index=3&list=PLX2MirLBhMw47_jK3T3OM27uC7eg4xrwm
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The belief that Jesus is God is a core belief of Christianity. Once you try to attack it, then your 'religion' is something else besides Christian.

If you believe that Jesus is not GOD and was merely a man. Then you believe in a DIFFERENT Jesus (a false god) and NOT the Jesus that the Bible clearly reveals as God. There is already ample evidence to prove that Jesus is God. Unfortunately for you, you also deny the Holy Spirit.
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Blind guides. You approach the Bible in the same way an atheist would, using your own intelligence or the Watertower materials to TRY to understand IT. But, that won't work!

It is written that the Holy Spirit will guide you unto all Truth. That is to say that when we read the Bible the Holy Spirit reveals truth. If you deny the Holy Spirit then how can you say that there is any truth in you?
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Not at all. The teaching that 'Jesus is God' is not Christian at all, but comes from Apostates. Apostates are false christians. "For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those not acknowledging Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist." (2 John 1:7)

Trinitarians aren't Christian, they teach another Jesus. Where is the Christ in that trinity doctrine?? NONE.
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Trinitarians teach that God is a man. Isn't that what you been teaching all along? God is not a Spirit but multi-natured? The triquetra is not Christian but identifies a number of a man. 666 ~~~~~~> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triquetra

"God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth." (John 4:24) It's not like all of a sudden, you're going to start to believe the Word of God now isn't it?
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If Jesus was merely human like you claim then he would of also sinned because he was just human and not GOD. How then could he be the "perfect sacrifice" to save the world from sin? He cannot if he was only human.

Yet the truth is that Jesus was and is God. Jesus is the Alpha and Omega the beginning and the end. The first and the last.

For there are three that bear record in heaven, The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are ONE.
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"Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred three score and six." (Rev 13:18 KJV) The teaching God is a man comes from the opposition.

What does the Bible really teach? "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent:" (Numbers 23:19 KJV)

God is not a man: neither the son of man. Checkmate.... some translations read NOR if you don't understand the word NEITHER.
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"I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one." (John 17:22) Literal or Spiritual?
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"So also it is written, The first man Adam became a living soul. The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." (1 Corinthians 15:45 ASV)
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Understanding that Jesus is God is as simple as understanding that there are three forms of water. It can be a liquid, gas or solid. But, it's all water.
What BroRando is essentially arguing is that only liquid is water. And even though there is evidence that the gas form of water is called steam and the solid form of water is called ice and they have different names and functions. That only the liquid form of water exists in HIS paradigm.
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God is not the son of man, Jesus is. Son of man is a messianic title. When Jesus used this phrase, He was assigning the Son of Man prophecy to Himself. The Son of Man Is Given Dominion. "I kept watching in the visions of the night, and look! with the clouds of the heavens, someone like a son of man was coming; and he gained access to the Ancient of Days, and they brought him up close before that One." (Daniel 7:13)
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And to him there were given rulership, honor, and a kingdom, that the peoples, nations, and language groups should all serve him. His rulership is an everlasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom will not be destroyed. (Daniel 7:14)
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GIVEN... also he stated so himself. "Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth." (Matthew 28:18)
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When trinitarians can't prove the trinity is in the bible they switch to Modalism claiming God is like water. Again, "God is a Spirit" as taught by jesus Christ at (John 4:24) Does it say God is three forms?? Does it say God is three persons??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOieHqt213U&index=4&list=PLDCCF748A5C3FCF22
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1Jn 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because God sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him.
Rom 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
Jesus Christ is the heir to all that is God. We become heirs with Him, just as He overcame the world.Howcan Jesus Christ be heir if He is NOT a Son?
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Mat 21:35 And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another. Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise. But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
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When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
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RighteousDestiny who died for our sins? For Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: (1 Peter 3:18)

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I was speaking of those who do not accept the Son as the Son. I will watch the video and get back to you.
The "servants" he sent before sending His Son are, as you know, of course, the prophets.
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RighteousDestiny: I did not state that Jesus was "just" a man as that is not my belief. Maybe I wasn't clear or you just didn't get it. Not judging you, only the doctrine you hold, which I also once believed wholeheartedly until I realized that the sacrifice GOD made was His Son, not Himself. Would you sacrifice yourself for your fellow man or loved one? Yes. Would you sacrifice your only son for someone else, a stranger? Of course not. But THIS is the love of God demonstrated:
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Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
He that believes on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
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I have shown enough verses, which are the truths of God, delivered to us through the prophets and Jesus Himself, even Jesus Himself proclaimed He was the Son of God, not God Himself. He confessed the truth only, and would not have called God His Father if it were not true. To accept that Jesus is God's only Son, born of flesh and blood, as Adam, to take on the sins of sinful man, and to be resurrected by His Father to the glory He had with Him before the world was, as the Word of God,
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through which all things were manifested. The Word of God which brought into existence all things God created, was made manifest in the flesh as Jesus, the only begotten Son of God. He is the Word of God in the flesh, not God in the flesh. I condemn no one for their belief as we all have the same goal at heart, to see the face of God. Psa 27:8 When thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek.
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Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
1Co 2:10 But God has revealed them unto us by His Spirit: for the Spirit searches all things, yea, the deep things of God.
Once you look into the deeper things of God, you will find that many of them are not what you have been taught, which usually follows mainstream doctrine, such as a Trinity, etc. things introduced by man.
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And don't take this offensively, but...1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
1Jn 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come;
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What does "confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh" mean for you? That God has come in the flesh? But that is not what that verse is saying. It is quite common for the mind to see what it has been told to see, subconsciously and consciously, through media, pastors, books, all things that are not definitively divinely inspired, rather, not in the Bible. Since Jesus is the one who said, "I am the Son of God", John10:36, I think I'll stick with Him. That ol' Serpent just keeps on yakking...
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@raybanned= "even Jesus Himself proclaimed He was the Son of God, ..."
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The daughter of a man is a man.
The son of a man is a man.
The offspring of cattle is cattle.
The corn seed gives rise to corn.
so How can Jesus the Son of God not be God?
Like "always" gives birth to like. This is an undisputable law of nature that you would be very foolish to deny because it is a law that you obey. You are the daughter of human beings and of course as a result, you are also a human being.
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Your argument that Jesus is not God doesn't hold water "at all". It is totally unrealistic and isnt worth considering because it is "totally" against nature. Like must give birth to like. Adam must give birth to Adam which is why we are all little rebels that reflect the original sin of our father Adam. We are all little Adam's because we were born from the adamic seed. In the same way, Christ is the full expression (the only i.e the exclusive expression) of God. Unlike we who are little...
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expressions of the greater Adam, Christ is the fulness or totallity of God. Claiming that Christ is the son of God but is not God is equivalent to claiming that raybanned is the daughter of her father but is not a human being but a cat. Very foolish argument I have to admit.
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You (in your sinful state) are Adam whether you are willing to accept it or not. You came from (were begotten from) Adam and therefore whether you like it or not, his sins run through your veins. He is you and you are (a part of) him. That's why we all need to repent whether we are turkish, Chinese, french or indians. We are all expressions of (sinful) Adam. In the same way, Christ who was begotten from God is"indeed" God. God operates in him. He who sees me sees him who sent me. John 12:45
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He is God manifest. Abstract God made Manifest God. Just like the male's invisible sperm/seed needs to strike the females invisible egg in order to become manifest as a child, Christ is God's invisible nature made manifest to us. Note that it is the seed of the man and the egg of the woman that become the child after sex. The seed is the man. It is an expression of the man. The egg is the woman. The woman is born with all her eggs and each egg is an expression of her.
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(a unique expression of her)
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. Gal 3:16
In the same way, Christ the only "exclusive" seed of God is the total expression of God. The seed is God. The child is God. They are both God.
The mango seed begets mango. The pear seed begets pear and the quality of each seed determines the harvest. If the seed is is genetically modified, it will bring forth...
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..fruit that conforms to the modification. If the seed is natural, the fruit will also be natural. The seed= the child/fruit/tree
The fruit/tree "cannot" exist without the seed. The seed is the fruit/tree because It is the seed that develops into the tree and into the fruit that produces the tree. The fruit is therefore the seed and vice versa. In the same way, the father is the son and the son is the father. They are both one and the same I and my Father are one. John 10:30
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So if you claim that Jesus is the son of God and is not God, then it means that you are indirectly telling us that you are the daughter of your parents but you are not a human being.
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@brorando, I didnt ask you to tell me whether I believed in the word of God or not. I asked . So is Jesus bad? Isnt Jesus good? and if Jesus is good, doesn't that make Him God? Why is it much easier for you to quote the whole bible than it is for you to answer a simple yes or no?
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I QUOTED the Word of God, the one who was approved and chosen by God, the Christ. If you want to try and twist his words go ahead.

New Heart English Bible (Mark 10:18)
Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good except one?God.
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Berringtons quote: "So if you claim that Jesus is the son of God and is not God, then it means that you are indirectly telling us that you are the daughter of your parents but you are not a human being." Ahhh NO!

"God is not human" (Number 23:19 NIV)
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Based on Hebrews 1:1,2 who is the originator of creation, the Father or Jesus? (Hebrews 1:2) “..God has spoken to us by means of his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe..”
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Heir? "Being made so much better than the angels, as he has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they." (Hebrew 1:4 KJV)

Then comes the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. (1 Corinthians 15:24 KJV)
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Lol and how does your latest meaningless rant answer my question :So is Jesus bad? Isnt Jesus good? and if Jesus is good, doesn't that make Him God? I didnt ask whether you quoted the word of God or the word of satan so why are you giving me an unrelated reply? Well we all know why. You know that the answer to that question will rip your foolish argument to shreds so you would rather ignore it and go around in meaningless cycles
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Besides where did you see God is a human in this quote :So if you claim that Jesus is the son of God and is not God, then it
means that you are indirectly telling us that you are the daughter of your parents but you are not a human being." When did I claim God is human? Another foolish diversionary attempt used to conceal your stupidity and obstinacy.
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In order to save us from our sin, the invisible God willed to/decided to become human and "became" human by overshadowing Mary with his Spirit . Mary= the chosen woman with the the vessel (womb) that nurtures and manifests invisible God as visible .
Your father willed to have sex with your mom in order to manifest his invisible sperm as a manifest being and the invisible sperm which was a part of your father "became" manifest by striking the invisible egg of your mother in the womb ..
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...of your mom and developed into a "manifest" being who is brorando. The sperm was once you. The egg was once you. They are both you. y chromosome from dad x chromosome from mom. T Claiming that Jesus the Seed/Son of God is not God is equivalent to claiming that the the invisible sperm and eggs (i.e seeds) that produced brorando are not brorando. You were once an invisible sperm that could only be seen with the aid of a microscope but now you are a human being that can be seen..
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..with the naked eye. So you are one person taking on various forms i.e visible and invisible. Same with God. In order to make Himself manifest, The invisible Spirit of God overshadowed Mary, the woman or the vessel that is needed to manifest the invisible as the visible. The woman is like a ground where the invisible is nurtured in order to become the manifest. Everyone must therefore pass through the woman in order to become manifest.
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So in order to make Himself to the world and save it, God had to also pass through the woman in order to become manifest to our eyes.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 1:14
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes..1 John 1:1
..God was manifest in the flesh, .. 1 Tim 3:16
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correction, i meant So in order to make Himself visible to the world and save it...
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So anytime you deny that Jesus is God, you are also denying your own nature (Rom 1:19). Anytime you deny that the seed of God is God, you are also denying that you were once a sperm (i.e a seed). That sperm is "you". It is not different from you. All the genetic material that is in you right now was contained in the sperm and egg that formed you. So you are that sperm and egg and at the same time, you are the manifest brorando. Same with God. He is the invisible seed & he is the manifest person.
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invisible Sperm=brorando
invisible egg/ovary=brorando
Sex=sperm+egg=zygote inside the womb=brorando
embryo inside the womb=brorando
manifest human being that is delivered from the womb=brorando
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Sex implies a multiplication of two people in order to become many
i.e A man multiplies into millions of "unique" sperms (configurations) and the woman multiplies into thousands of unique eggs (configurations) and out of all the man's unique configurations, only one (sometimes 2 or more) meet with one or more of the woman configurations in order to produce new offspring. So sex is multiplication (Gen 1:28)
But God " didn't" have sex with Mary meaning He "didn't" multiply himself into ..
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..many unique configurations. He "overshadowed" her (with the "fullness"(totality) of his spirit) (Luke 1:35)
To overshadow:appear much more prominent or important than
synonyms: cast a shadow over, shade, darken, conceal, obscure, screen;
Overshadow implies that God "totally" concealed Mary's own (carnal, sinful, fleshy) nature with his spirit or fulness.
So Christ is the overshadowing by God of mary or in simpler terms, Christ is the fullness of God that obliterates the tainted nature..
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..that was present in Mary (i.e in Mary's egg) So Christ is the totality or fullness of the sinless and perfect God made manifest in Mary his mom's image. He was God in the form of (made manifest as) man.
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Is God like an egg or water? Where is that scripture? I would love to see it.
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You still haven't answered my questions @brorando. You always write loads & loads of (meaningless) paragraphs when trying to justify your silly and false argument that Jesus is not God but when I ask for a simple yes or no, you keep turning a blind eye to my question(s). You want me to address you but you are not addressing me. Anyways since (unlike you) I have nothing to hide, Rom 1:19 tells us "Because that which may be known of God is manifest "in" them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
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Did you see that: that which may be known of God is manifest in them for God has shown it to them. The mysteries of God are manifest in your "own" nature. God created everything including yourself and He designed His universe to follow certain laws and these laws reflect His own nature. The same way an iphone mirrors the intelligence of its makers. Brorando's father had sex with brorando's mom in order to manifest his invisible sperm and her invisible egg (when they combine in the womb)..
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..as a visible brorando. Brorando's mom is the gate/door that brorando "must" pass through in order to manifest as flesh and blood. Every invisible sperm must pass through a woman in order to become manifest.

In compliance with this law, God (The invisible Father) had to pass through (be begotten from) a woman (Mary) in order to manifest Himself in a form we could comprehend (Visible Jesus Christ) .
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Brorando the son is his "father's" sperm and mothers ovum.
In the same way, The incarnate God, Jesus Christ (i.e God when he incarnated as flesh and blood) is His invisible Father's seed manifesting in a form that mirrors the form of his earthly mother. (physical human body (structure) which he inherited from his mom.) or in other words, He is God manifest as a man.
Result of the overshadowing of visible Mary by the invisible God= Visible (like His mom) God (like His Dad)
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In the same way, Result of the sex between brorando's dad and brorando's mom= brorando who takes features from both of them.
brorando might get his tall nature from his dad and his hairy nature from his mom. In union there is always a "sharing". Some characteristics from mom and some characteristics from dad. So it was when God chose to incarnate. Divinity= Father. Manifest (body) nature=(earthly mother)
So its all nature brorando. Undeniable nature which you would be a big fool to deny.
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Actually denied (John 3:16) is foolish. "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life." (KJV)

Is God Begotten or Eternal? The Father and God of the Lord Jesus Christ is UNbegotten. We have One God (The Father) One Lord (Jesus Christ) 1 Corinthians 8:6
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You are so hell bent on defending your foolish argument that you no longer think before you write. You just write for the fun of it.
@brorando= Actually denied (John 3:16) is foolish.
Me=so How can Jesus the Son of God not be God?
When did I deny that Jesus is the Son of God? Isnt that the "whole" thrust of my argument? Didn't you read my argument about sperms and eggs and offspring? Or are you blind? If you are you better just say so instead of constantly making a fool of yourself.
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Your thoughts beget your words silly. But they both manifest in different forms. The Word is the thought manifest as language i.e they are the same thing.Your Father's (invisible) sperm produced you (when combined with your mothers invisible egg in the womb). You are your Father's invisible sperm (combined with mom's egg) manifest as a human being. The sperm/egg combo and you are both the same thing. In the same way, God the Father is eternal and God the son is also eternal because they are
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both the same person manifesting in different forms.
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The son is the invisible Father is in a manifest form. You are the invisible sperm/egg combo in a manifest form.
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The invisible sperm inside the father= The manifest son who came from the mother.
They are both the "same". They are not different. What the seed (of the father) is, the offspring (son) is in another form. So stop separating one from the other by telling us one is eternal and one isn't. They are both the same. You brorando are that tiny sperm that hit & combined with your mom's egg (fertilization) in the womb. If that sperm didnt didnt hit the egg, then you "wouldnt" have existed.
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Sperm does not beget sperm nor does egg beget egg. God does not beget God nor does Christ beget Christ. God begets creation and to worship creation rather than the Creator is Paganism. My Father will always be my Father and I will never be equal to my Father because he existed before I am. Creation began with the image of God. That includes angels and mankind, not that God became an angel or a man. God sent his word. (John 3:16)
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Lol you have become so desperate to defend your non existent argument that you dont even think again you just write blindly. Of course invisible sperm and egg are the child. Sperm and egg change form and become the child. Sperm is therefore the human child. If you know a thing or 2 about science then you would realize that the sperm and eggs contain all the genetic information in the manifest child. The sperm and egg are the child.
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And God "doesnt "beget creation. The Bible tells us that God formed man from the dust of the ground. God formed man from dust.
So God "created" man in his own image.. Gen 1:27
God created man.
But God begat Christ. (John 3:16)
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Brorando:"God does not beget God
That's why brorando's dad is a turtle who begat a human being.
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I thought you almost understood for a second. God begat Christ. (John 3:16) But I guess you never did.

Your quote: "God "doesnt "beget creation" is incorrect. "These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;" (Rev 3:14 KJV)

Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God and that God has made the same Jesus, whom you have crucified, both Lord and Christ." (Acts 2:36 KJV)
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The Greek word for "beginning" is ◄ 746. arché ►

Strong's Concordance
arché: beginning, origin
Original Word: ἀρχή, ῆς, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: arché
Phonetic Spelling: (ar-khay')
Short Definition: ruler, beginning
Definition: (a) rule (kingly or magisterial), (b) plur: in a quasi-personal sense, almost: rulers, magistrates, (c) beginning.
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As in (John 1:1) 746 arxḗ – properly, from the beginning (temporal sense), i.e. "the initial (starting) point"; (figuratively) what comes first and therefore is chief (foremost), i.e. has the priority because ahead of the rest ("preeminent").
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Lol keep on making a fool of yourself and proving to the world the kind of pathological liar you are with your false claims.Even a blind person can see that the "whole" thrust of my argument is Jesus is the Son of God so why this blatant misinterpretation of facts "I thought you almost understood for a second. God begat Christ. (John 3:16) But I guess
you never did. If you have nothing to write, then dont write instead of exposing your lying and deceitful nature
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And where did the verses that you quoted state that God begat creation? Do you even think before you write? You "admit" that Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God. 1st of all do you understand what the word creation means? Creation:the action or process of bringing something into existence.
Jesus:....without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life Heb 7:3
How can Jesus have a beginning when he is "Himself" the beginning (Rev 22:13)
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Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God meaning everything that was created (i.e everything that has a beginning) began with Him
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. John 1:3
Spiritual blindness always results from the victim relinquishing the tendency to be honest for that of the lies which they have been indoctrinated with. In other words, they swap the tendency to be truthful in exchange for the deceit of indoctrination..
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in order to keep their blindness and lies intact. Open your eyes silly. Stop fooling yourself. At the end of the day, you end up fooling no one but yourself when you cling to lies that even a 1st grader would reject as dumb.
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@brorando=God "doesnt "beget creation" is incorrect.
Bible=So God "created" man in his own image,..Gen 1:27
And the Lord God "formed" man of the dust of the ground. Gen 2:7
Maybe your dad formed you from the dust of the ground. Perhaps that is the reason why you cant differentiate btw the words create and beget.
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Those in the lake of fire reject "Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God". The death you are dying IS the Second Death. You have already been thrown outside the Kingdom of God. "There is where your weeping and the gnashing of your teeth will be, when you see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown outside." (Luke 13:28)

That's why you weep and gnash your teeth against the beginning of the creation of God, Jesus Christ.
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Lol thrown out in your illusory dream world where goats give birth to chickens and your turtle dad gave birth to you a human being.

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After reading your questions I can see what you are wanting to know or confirm.
God's kingdom is coming to Earth, but not until Jesus returns.
Christ's kingdom will be on Earth for 1,000 years, and David will be with Christ on this Earth for 1,000 years, after he and all Saints are resurrected at the First Resurrection.
Everyone who is Born again will be rulers with Christ on this Earth for 1,000 years.
Then, We will be with Christ forever on a New Earth, in a New Heaven, in a New Jerusalem.
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Thank you Saintly. This scripture adds to your witness what Jesus does at the end of the 1,000 years. "Next, the end, when he hands over the Kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power.  For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet.  And the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing." (1 Corinthians 15:24-25)
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You are perverting the scriptures, BroRando, and you are ignoring the book of Revelation, which shows that Jesus is God Almighty.
God's FLESH is given authority, and God's flesh will give back that authority.
Stop trying to convince people that Jesus is not God Almighty.
You are teaching distortions of the TRUTH, and this is INIQUITY.
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BroRando,
Jesus has shown me that people do NOT have to believe that Jesus is God in order to be BORN AGAIN.
However, BroRando, in your case, you MUST believe Jesus is God.
You are a rare case, and I do not meet too many antichristians exactly like you.
I have met others like you who may still be in your same situation.
I have prayed for you, several times.
I love you with Christ's love and I want you to be saved!

JESUS IS GOD!
http://JESUSisGOD.com/PROPHECYCHARTJESUSISGOD.htm
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Remember that Jesus Christ was raised up from the dead and was David’s offspring, according to the good news I preach (2 Timothy 2:8)

Was Almighty God raised up from the dead?
Is Almighty God David’s offspring?
Is David the Father of Almighty God?

Does this verse teach that we must believe Jesus to be God in order to be saved?
"For if you publicly declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved."
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Please provide the scripture you claim states, 'Jesus is Almighty God'.
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My comments to you, BroRando were not intended as insults.
You are a worker of iniquity, BroRando.
And, besides that, I gave you your scripture up above.
I also gave you almost 50 verses showing that Jesus is God.
And, not only that, but I gave you a link to my PROPHECY CHART, which has 267 verses
showing that Jesus is God.
You just don't want to even try to look.
If you honestly cared you would be paying attention to what I have been telling you.
You have also falsely accused me.
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BroRando,
Knowing that Jesus is God is evidence that a person is BORN AGAIN.
The fact that you are teaching that Jesus is not God is evidence that you are not BORN AGAIN.
You posted this scripture.
Romans 10:9 KJV
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

The word "Lord" in that verse means God.
YOU MUST BELIEVE JESUS IS WHO HE IS TO BECOME BORN AGAIN!
You don't believe.
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If you call God a liar then how can you be born again when Eve called God a liar by believing the snake she and later Adam brought into the world of sin and death.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
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And Jehovah said to Moses, See, I have made thee God to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. (Exodus 7:1 Darby) Is Moses God? Aren't the 10 Commandments called the Law of Moses?

Word for Word Greek translation: "No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him." (John 1:18)
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Of course Moses isn't God.
To the Pharaoh Moses appeared to be a god.
Jesus doesn't appear to be a god.
Jesus is God.
Big difference.
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BroRando,
The muslims do eaxactly as you are doing!
Muslims point out the humanity of Christ to try to convince people that Jesus is not God.
The problem with that is, you and the muslims are IGNORING the scriptures which clearly say Jesus is God.
And, you use a Bible translation which twists the scriptures in an attempt to make Jesus look like He is not God.
Again, I say, it is INIQUITY to teach that Jesus is not God!
Jesus will one day tell YOU,
"Depart from ME you who work INIQUI
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Thanks for the response. Let me share two scriptures. And if you want to continue or not, I'll leave it up to you. Fair enough? The scriptures never state that one must believe that Jesus is God in order to be saved. But here is what it does say.

"And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved, and your house." (Acts 16:31 KJV) Notice the two titles assigned to Jesus? Lord and Christ.
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BroRando,
Teaching that Jesus is not God is INIQUITY.
It is INIQUITY to teach lies, and it is a lie to teach that Jesus is not God.
One day Jesus is going to say to YOU,
Depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Matthew 7:22-23 KJV
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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Here's the second: "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ." (Acts 2:36)

God made Jesus both Lord and Christ. And Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved, and your house.

Take Care.
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Believing on Jesus Christ is believing in who Jesus is, not just what He has done to save us.
Without believing in who Jesus is you are missing an essential element of belief.

I have been teaching for many years that people can be saved without believing Jesus is God, and I have done this because I have met people who did not understand that Jesus is God.
But teaching Jesus is not God is BLASPHEME!
A lack of knowledge is not the same as willful ignorance.
You willfully ignore the Truth!
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But Satan and his demons will be destroyed in the lake of fire to rid the earth of sin before the righteous will inhabit the earth. When Jesus comes back the second time the righteous will be caught up with Him in the clouds and go to heaven first and then Satan will have this earth for a time before he and his fallen angels will be destroyed. After that the righteous will again inhabit the new earth!

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The only way into Heaven is FAITH. We have faith in Jesus it is counted as righteousness and we have Jesus
Romans 10:4
For Christ is the fulfillment{or, completion, or end} of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. -
Galatians 2:21
I don't make void the grace of God. For if righteousness is through the law, then Christ died for nothing!" - See more at: http://www.bibleverses.com/search.php?s=new+testament+righteousness#sthash.WrEzXhVy.dpuf
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If we have faith in Jesus we will want to do good works for Jesus too!
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Most don't recognize that 'grace" is a direct link to Jesus Christ. Deny that the "Christ died for our sins" is to reject that 'grace'. Most claim God died for ours sins, but that theology is in error by claiming Jesus is God.

◄ 5485. charis ►
Strong's Concordance
charis: grace, kindness
Original Word: χάρις, ιτος, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: charis
Phonetic Spelling: (khar'-ece)
Short Definition: grace, favor, kindness
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"Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead." (James 2:17 Authorized King James)
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That is absolutely right BroRando. Have a nice Sabbath and God Bless you!!!

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Ephesians 2:8-10 is clear

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them."

Your belief (faith) in Jesus Christ saves you and there is no other way.

John 14:6, "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

John 10:7-9, "Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture."
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Your righteousness (good works) are nothing but filthy rags: (Isaiah 64:6)
"But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away."
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You said enough, RighteousDestiny!
Even so, here is a link which shows how to become BORN AGAIN:

How Do You Become Born Again?

It is Christ's RIGHTEOUSNESS that gives us Eternal Life!
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