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Posted On: 2016-08-30 23:38:54
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What is WordPress exactly? And do you recommend it?

What is WordPress exactly?
Some people say that it is a Free Blog service.
Others say that it is a Web Site development tool.
Then others say that it is a CMS. Whatever that means since it seems to have so many :)
And when you create a Web Site on WordPress, is it Hosted on their Data center or do we host the site on our own rented server?

So what is exactly WordPress?
And when do you best think it should be used?

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7 months 1 week ago

I use wordpress, I find it excellent and it had hundreds of plugins and add-ons and you can pretty much make any kind of website you want. very easy to maintain and easy to learn how to use it.
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It is impossible for Turdpress and all of its plugins to make and maintain my website. That would be true for ANY website like mine. Spending HOURS per page the first time then more HOURS per page to maintain those pages EVERY MONTH is not feasible by any stretch of the imagination. I prefer to spend 10 MINUTES to make the page, then SECONDS per month to maintain that page. I have no inclination of spending the rest of my life fixing the same bugs over & over again.
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7 months 1 week ago
Its doable, just takes more time. Its the SEO side of things that take the extra time
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7 months 1 week ago
LOL. More time is a gross understatement. I have to update 100-200 pages PER DAY. At ONLY 15 minutes per page (extremely low if using Turrdpress), that means the days MUST be 25 to 50 HOURS EACH. Get real.

By NOT using Turdpress, my time is less than 2 minutes per page, or 3 to 6 hours per day. With a website of over 9000 pages, spending ONLY 1 HOUR per page creation (not possible with Turdpress), it would take 4-1/2 YEARS to redo the website from scratch. Get real.
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7 months 1 week ago
It depends what youre using it for. I have a directory and it takes me 5 mins to approve users and check any content. not many people have 9000 pages on their website. most people have between 5-11 pages.
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7 months 1 week ago
Exactly what I said and what you objected to. Changing your story benefits NO ONE, not even you. It just makes you look like an idiot.
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7 months 1 week ago
Ive not changed my story at all. I have a website using wordpess which has 5 editable pages which take 5 minutes to sort out. The more time consuming part is doing your own custom SEO. eg keywords and metas but it does not take ages at all. There is no need to be offensive and call people idiots for contributing to this website. Its people like you which make new members not bother coming back.
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7 months 1 day ago
First, I did NOT call you an idiot. I just said it makes you LOOK like an idiot. BIG DIFFERENCE. Smarties can look idiotic, and vice versa.

Second, 5 pages, whoopdeedah. We are comparing apples to oranges which means nothing you are saying about Turdpress means anything beyond a SMALL website. Try making and updating a real website with Turdpress and you will find you are spending more time fixing things that you have already fixed instead of doing something useful somewhere else.

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8 months 1 hour ago

Well, WordPress is open source content management system, available for all free of cost. It is available Hosted on WordPress Data center and yes of course we can use it on our own rented server as well.

WordPress is by far the most prominent CMS out there.

Most splendid fact about WordPress is around 75.00 Million Sites Depend on WordPress. You surprised even i was surprised.

Well if you are looking for WordPress hosting paid let me refer you a UAE based web hosting company UAESOL.com. Host provide pre-installed WordPress hosting services in UAE and worldwide you should try it.
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7 months 4 weeks ago
But why use Wordpress?
I mean does it help in creating the HTML/CSS/JS of the Site? That is the front ending part of the Web Site.
Or does it automate creating the backend of the Site?
Neither of which of course can be done to any degree well unless you have related Coder in your team or will out-source such development to able Coders.

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8 months 1 week ago

I have been a wordpress developer for about five years now, and it's pretty simple really. What it is is a system for creating websites with plugins that make the site do different tasks. Things like running an online store, or even an affiliate program. I think wordpress is the best website system there is! Yes, it's well worth your time if you're going to build a site.
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7 months 1 week ago
Turdpress MAY be the best system AVAILABLE, but that does NOT mean it is any good, just better than the competition which is obviously even worse. Turdpress outputs shit for code that CANNOT be validated per HTML STANDARDS. That alone is a good reason NOT to use it because it will NOT work correctly in many user agents, if it works at all.
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7 months 1 week ago
Yes, I agree. "Turdpress" is indeed should be avoided for any serious Web Site projects. If it is a Business card sort of thing, or a non-commercial Site, then "Turdpress" maybe OK for that.

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10 months 2 days ago

I answered the what is... and ran out of space. :-)

It started out as a blogging software platform and it's roots are showing & graying.

Most commercial hosting services offer installing the Wordpress software as an option. You can download it and install it yourself but if you have to ask this question... you probably don't want to start off doing that.

The only application I would recommend it for is - a blog driven site (naturally) or niche marketing for a narrow target / short product list and relatively small consumer base. In the long run, it's a black box approach and there's no gentle learning curve to it. You are either what you are handed or have to become very proficient with PHP & JS - because the inevitable solving conflicts when you have various blocks of code being mashed up is far harder on code you didn't write.
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10 months 2 days ago

WordPress is a CMS (content management system) offering some excellent features, has a lot of support, many templates and add-ons /plug-ins available - many free, some rather expensive.

That said - it isn't easy and it's a dead end street. You can have this and that plug in but it's Wordpress and your template limits you (unless you start over with a new template) and new shiny plug-ins can trash your site without warning so you better back up everything, including your wordpress database, before installing.

Do I recommend it? Nope - but I don't condemn it either.

What I recommend for 2017 is pick a framework and learn to use it. For a user friendly path in that direction, I recommend Coffee Cup apps. They have a proprietary framework program, & also offer Foundation & Bootstrap GUI clients. Frameworks offer a huge helping hand into the responsive/fluid design world, compared to hand-coding CSS3/HTML5. IMO - the CC apps are powerful, & easier/cheaper than Dreamweaver.
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10 months 2 days ago
That is some real good Intel. Thanks gllincoln.
From what I have gathered here, it is better to avoid Wordpress, and one better learn actual programming in PhP, JS & CSS. Of course that is easier said than done, since I know people who been studying these for years and still struggle to create a good bug free site.
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10 months 2 days ago
Creating bug free code is relatively easy, if and only if the programmer writes easily debuggable code. Close to 99% of programmers NEVER learn to do that and as a result spend more time chasing bugs instead of writing new code. Writing spaghetti code, which is what most programmers write, is an invitation for disaster, and sooner or later their code becomes an unmanageable disaster.
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10 months 2 days ago
In my experience, the best way to write code is in modules, then call each module as needed. Once a module has been debugged, IT NEVER FAILS. I have code written over thirty years ago that still works bug free today, even though some of that code is included in modern programs. And when a bug does hatch, it is easy to find, and easy to kill PERMANENTLY.
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10 months 2 days ago
On the other hand, spaghetti code CANNOT be permanently debugged. If a bug is found and squashed, it invariable creates a NEW bug that sooner or later will appear. And when the new one is squashed, it may even bring the original bug back.
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10 months 2 days ago
Also, in my experience, the more primitive the language, the easier it is to write bug-free code. When using Turdpress and other CMSs, it is near impossible to write bug-free anything because of the BUILT-IN bugs which the programmer cannot correct. Now I know that it is impossible to expect most programmers to write in raw machine code. So, the best alternative is to write in a higher language that has few built-in bugs. That eliminates ALL CMSs to the best of my knowledge.
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10 months 2 days ago
That leaves the programmer with tools like PHP, Perl, and other mid-level languages with few built-in bugs.

I do most of my coding with FoxPro, a good language with few bugs, but no longer viable on modern computers. I don't ever expect to move to a more modern language, so I have not investigated to find a comparable language to replace it.

P.S. Reply boxes are too damn small.
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10 months 2 days ago
Ha Ha Turdpress :) Good name for it.

And you think this Reply boxes, how about the ones at Twitter where they are max of 140 Characters! Which is 300% less space than here! No wonder that Bird brain frauds such as Trump like TurdTwit so much.
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10 months 2 days ago
I am not a TwitterTwat, so don't need to contend with incomprehensible garbage in 140 spaces.

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10 months 3 weeks ago

Hi dear, wordpress is a Content Management Service that produces horrible bloated code. Using it for anything for a small personal site is probably all it is good for. It should NEVER be used for a business website for many reasons, not the least of which is that you will never stop fixing your fixes of your fixes of your fixes to keep it working.
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10 months 3 weeks ago
That is really good to know. But it is rather copy of what mmerlinn had said!
Although I tend to agree with both of you, that is mmerlinn, that something like wordpress should never be used for a serious site.

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Turdpress is a Content Management Service that produces horrible bloated code. Using it for anything for a small personal site is probably all it is good for. It should NEVER be used for a business website for many reasons, not the least of which is that you will never stop fixing your fixes of your fixes of your fixes to keep it working.



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