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Trainer367

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Did God mean for man not be alone in the universe?


When God created Adam, He said that it was not good for man to be alone. So, He created Eve as a helper for him. Can this possibly be His approach to humanity’s existence in the universe, as well? Has God also provided helpers for us in the cosmos, that may include flesh and blood, corporeal beings like ourselves? Excluding angels and other celestial beings, that is. I would like to hear your take on this question related, of course, to the timeless one: Are we alone?

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DEN14


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From what I have read in the Bible I believe there are other lives on other planets and when God said It is not good for man to be alone He was speaking of this earth at the time He created man. He also told afterward to go and replenish the earth and we certainly have done that. There used to be giants on the earth and there still are some left today too. I think that God will keep putting life on other planets in His immense universe. God has created uncountable billions of lives and all sorts of sizes and shapes! I believe in UFO's too. I saw one briefly years ago hovering over my farm and then shooting off at incredible speed! There is somithing to UFO's as too many people have seen them for it to be untrue.
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Boots61


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All of this extra terrestrial stuff is a load of bolony. However, I do believe in spirits. You may refer to them as Angels, and obviously there are good ones and bad ones. Be sure too differentiate the to.
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Trainer367


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7 months 2 days ago

I really would like to hear from those who have speculations about the existence of extraterrestrials, even if it's not from a believer's point-of-view. Understanding the psychology of the feeling of "aloneness" in the cosmos can also be explored from different philosophical perspectives.

The Fermi Paradox is interesting. If you approach the question from this perspective, you too may wonder, given the probability that extraterrestrials do exist, why haven't we been visited yet?

A great link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox
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Trainer367


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7 months 3 days ago

It's interesting that this discussion has veered off into speculations about suitable mates for Adam. And Berrinton's proposal that relationships with other humans don't matter, only with God, seems to make the act of Eve's creation irrelevant. As well as the creation of the New Testament church. Paul said not to forsake assembly. Praying for one another, forgiving one another, singing in the congregation are all communal facets of relatingships encouraged by the apostles. Relationships do matter. Ideally, as reflections of our relationship with God. But I digress, too.

The presence of animals on the planet doesn't constitute "the universe" to me. The universe, as understood by most, includes our galaxy and other galaxies in the vast expanse of infinite space. For God, who loves life and is life, how could He create life only on our little planet in this tiny corner of the universe?
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BERRINTON 7 months 2 days ago

@Trainer367 I think I was pretty clear "All human relations "must" therefore be geared
towards becoming more godly for God is our
sole purpose for existence" and "God expected Adam to disobey His wife and obey His
voice. But Adam chose obedience to the voice of His wife over truth so I think this
clearly shows that a relationship with God is our true need." so I wonder why you claimed
that my "so called" proposal claims that that relationships with other humans don't
matter.

BERRINTON 7 months 2 days ago

What do you understand by the term "All human relations "must" therefore be geared towards
becoming more godly for God is our sole purpose" does it in any way sound like the
proposal that you attributed to me "relationships with other humans don't matter?" God
created Eve to help Adam. Eve was supposed to compliment Adam and enhance HIS RELATIONSHIP
WITH GOD. The primary reason for our existence is to have a relationship with God. Any
other relationship is secondary. Jesus rebuked Peter...

BERRINTON 7 months 2 days ago

Get thee behind me satan because of his proposal that he should reject God's will by
avoiding the cross. So every relationship that God intends for us must be geared towards
God. Like I wrote earlier, God created Eve to be a help to Adam and enhance His
relationship with God. He "didnt" intend Eve to have a relationship with Adam that would
serve as distraction that would lead Him into sin "which is why I wrote "God expected
Adam to disobey His wife and obey His voice" .

BERRINTON 7 months 2 days ago

God created man to have a relationship with Him. That is the "primary" reason for His
creation of man. God created Eve to have a relationship with the man that would "enhance"
His relationship with God. (The same way the Church helps to manifest Christ on earth)
Besides I was also clear " Well that statement is "true" to an extent and could also be
misleading depending on how one chooses to approach it. " I wrote its true to an extent.
Didnt you see that? Always read carefully and reflect

BERRINTON 7 months 2 days ago

..deeply before you reply. That way, you would be able to give a more balanced and
accurate description of what others write.
Finally Ive written it before and I will write it again" Christian truths has nothing to
do with our feelings and how they are to us. They have to do with how things are
irrespective of our feelings. You write "The presence of animals on the planet doesn't
constitute "the universe" "to me. " Do you understand what the word universe means? Is the
earth not part of ...

BERRINTON 7 months 2 days ago

..the universe? Where do animals inhabit? Where does man inhabit? Are they not on earth?
Is the earth not part of the universe. The universe includes everything, the planets, our
sun, the moons, the galaxies, our solar system, other solar systems outside ours (both the
ones that have been discovered and the ones that havent discovered) so why do we have to
bicker over irrelevant issues?

BERRINTON 7 months 2 days ago

The Universe is all of time and space and its contents. It includes "planet", moons, minor
planets, stars, galaxies, the contents of intergalactic space, and all matter and energy.
Wikipedia
The universe: all of space and everything in it including stars, planets, galaxies,
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/universe

BERRINTON 7 months 2 days ago

Animals (including humans) are part of the content of time and space. Theyinhabit earth,
They are physical (i.e matter beings)

BERRINTON 7 months 2 days ago

Finally your statement " how could He create life only on our little planet in this tiny
corner of the universe? "is rather presumptuous . Who are we to question God? God is in
the heaven he does what he pleases. The psalmist wrote " When I consider thy heavens, the
work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man, that
thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? The same God who
despite the vastness of the universe is mindful..

BERRINTON 7 months 2 days ago

..of tiny and sinful people like us is the same person who has "every right" to create
life exclusively on our tiny universe. Its His universe after all and He can do whatever
ever He likes. (Note that I am not for or against the argument that life exists only in
this tiny corner of the universe. My point simply is " We have "no right" to question God
because He has "every right" to do whatever he likes: Psalm 115:3)

DEN14 7 months 2 days ago

God does not wan us to e alone!

BERRINTON 7 months 2 days ago

Are we alone? Is God not with us?
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide
with you for ever; John 14:16

DEN14 7 months 2 days ago

If we Love God He is with us and if we pray for the Holy Spirit He will send it to us! Oh
how great God is! Praise and Glorify Him! We are never alone!!


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Jerome


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7 months 3 days ago

We must keep verses in their context, and not broaden the verses to misapply them to other contexts. Along with all the animals there was only one man, Adam, in the beginning. The animals had families, but there was no female for Adam to have company with nor to have his own family. This caused Adam to be lonely. Therefore God said that that was not good, and Adam would be happier if he had a companion. His statement was not meant for each and every male born after Adam. Because for some individual males it would be a very bad thing for them to marry or to merge with a woman and have similar offspring. And as far as extraterrestrial aliens, as human-like creatures on other planets, no, scripture speaks of no such life existing apart from God's manifested earth. When astronauts go up into outer space they have found no life, no vegetation, no creatures, and they must take up their own oxygen in order to survive.
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BERRINTON


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And Adam gave names to "all cattle", and to the "fowl of the air", and to every "beast of the field"; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him Gen 2:20
Before I get into your question, God said He "It is not good for man to be alone". He didnt say "It is not good for man to alone in the universe" because there were other creation in the universe besides Adam.
And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. Gen 2:21-22
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be "one" flesh. Gen 2:24
..male and female created he them. Gen 1:27
Adam is not different from Eve neither is Eve different from Adam. Eve is the flesh of Adam's flesh and the bone of His bone so when God made an help for Adam, He wasn't making...
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BERRINTON 7 months 5 days ago

.. a being different from Adam. He was expressing Adam in another form which is why Jesus
tells us what God has joined together let not man put asunder. Adam and Eve are one. Eve
is Adam's rib expressed as a woman. It is also important to note that Adam's 'aloneness'
could only be soothed by someone that was meet (appropriate) for Him (Gen 2:18). The
aloneness of Adam didnt mean that he didnt have company. There were several fowls and
beasts with Him. The aloneness of Adam means..

BERRINTON 7 months 5 days ago

..that Adam didn't have someone to compliment him. God brought all the animals to Adam but
none was found meet (appropriate enough) for Him. Only Eve His Rib could compliment Him.
Eve is that part of Adam which when expressed, compliments Him. In spiritual terms, The
new Eve symbolizes the Church or the woman.( The 2nd ) Adam symbolizes Jesus, the new and
restored man (1 cor 15:45) Christ can only find expression in His Church. From Christ
comes the blood that purifies and cleanses us

BERRINTON 7 months 5 days ago

..from all sin and when Christ cleanses us and purifies us we become inseparable from Him.
We become His Church (His Body) on earth. Christ the man is invisible to the world. The
Church (the new woman Eve) expresses Christ which is why the Bible tells us that he that
despises us (christians) despises Christ. The Church is the wisdom of God expressed in His
regenerated Children i.e those who are reborn by Christ (the same way that Eve is Adam's
rib expressed as a woman) The woman is the vessel.

BERRINTON 7 months 5 days ago

..she is the dark womb (empty space, receptacle) where the invisible Jesus Christ (the
male) finds expression meaning the world sees Christ through his Church which further
means that without the woman, Christ would not be manifest. So Adam alone means the glory
of God concealed, Adam's rib expressed means God's glory made manifest which is why the
woman is called the glory of the man (1 cor 11:7) The woman comes from the man means The
man is the source of the woman or all that is in the woman.

BERRINTON 7 months 5 days ago

But the man must pass through (be birthed by ) the woman in order to become manifest
which means that the man's nature must be birthed by the woman which is why Paul claimed
he was travailing in birth till Christ be formed "in" the Galatians (Gal 4:19)
The Church compliments Christ in the visible manifest world. Christ is invisible to the
naked eye so he needs the Church to manifest Him here. If Christ didnt have the Church
(were alone), then Christ the man wouldnt be able to make

BERRINTON 7 months 5 days ago

...himself manifest so being alone implies that the complimentary part of Adam (which is
a part of Adam) had not yet found expression. It has nothing to do with aliens,
extraterrestrials and grays.

BERRINTON 7 months 5 days ago

God has only given us one helper and He is the Holy Spirit.
I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you
forever John 14:16

Trainer367 7 months 5 days ago

You've made several good points about Eve, which, on the surface, I agree with. And, as
you stated at the beginning, we can also agree that she was an appropriate helper
complimentary to him. But he was lonely as the biblical text clearly states. Humans need
relationships. In every culture, it's considered a disadvantage to be alone. It seems
apparent that God did not want Adam to suffer this disadvantage.

Trainer367 7 months 5 days ago

So, my question regarding "aloneness" in the universe seems appropriate to me. I see no
biblical proof there are creations like us in the universe. Perhaps, you could enlighten
me. I can only speak for myself, but when there was no life discovered on Mars, I felt a
great sense of loneliness. I believe there is a human need for others "complimentary" to
ourselves in the universe. As our "neighborhood" expands outside our planet, our solar
system, our heliosphere, we may need relationship.

BERRINTON 7 months 3 days ago

Im glad that you admitted that I made several good points on Eve and that we are in
agreement (on a surface level). I didn't deny the fact that he was lonely. I think my
answer clearly demonstrated that "..It is not good for man to be alone". He didnt say "It
is not good for man to alone in the universe". God said it is not good for man to be
alone. He didn't say It is not good for man to be alone in the universe. Prior to the
creation or more appropriately, the manifestation of Adam's rib...

BERRINTON 7 months 3 days ago

..Eve, there were other creations on earth. The Bible makes it clear that were beasts &
fowls with Him and it also makes it clear that God created the beasts and fowls before He
created Adam (Adam was created on the 6th/last day)
So Point 1. Adam had company. He wasn't alone "in the universe". He was alone in the
sense that he was without a help that was meet (appropriate for Him.)
2.The Word of God is a two edged sword. One side (the spiritual) reveals and the other
side (the literal) ..

BERRINTON 7 months 3 days ago

..kills (2 cor 3:6) so in order to get to the substance of truth we allow the Spirit of
Christ to pierce the 'coverings' i.e our stubborn, carnal and literal minds i.e the veils
that prevent us from perceiving truth. You write "Humans need
relationships" Well that statement is true to an extent and could also be misleading
depending on how one chooses to approach it. Humans need a relationship with God. God is
our "need" in this dangerous hour. If all we needed was human relationships, ...

BERRINTON 7 months 3 days ago

..then God wouldnt have bothered sending His only Son to die for our sins. He would have
told us to just get along better with one another and be more understanding of each other.
All human relations "must" therefore be geared towards becoming more godly for God is our
sole purpose for existence meaning we were created to live for and please God but due to
our fall into sin, we have an inbuilt desire to stray from God and live to gain the
approval of others..

BERRINTON 7 months 3 days ago

and therefore our desire for relationships has become geared towards promoting and
approving the self and the collective at the expense of God the truth.
The 'religion' of Relationships teaches us to, like Adam, “hearken unto the voice”
of those we love rather than the One Who created them – especially if it keeps us united
no matter how contrived and illicit that unity may be. This is consensus over conviction,
covetousness over conscience and flesh over spirit..

BERRINTON 7 months 3 days ago

It is better to be alone and have God's acceptance and approval than to have the approval
and friendship of the herd which is why Jesus went to the cross "alone" (His disciples
forsook Him and fled) Elijah also stood alone even when he was outnumbered by the 450
prophets of baal. The gospel of relationships emphasizes unity, harmony, peace and human
relationships over Gospel truth, (Just like the United Nations.) So we "must" always put
relationship with God above any other relationship.

BERRINTON 7 months 3 days ago

because God is our only true need. God expected Adam to disobey His wife and obey His
voice. But Adam chose obedience to the voice of His wife over truth so I think this
clearly shows that a relationship with God is our true need.
And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth
your hearts: for that which is "highly esteemed" among men is abomination in the sight of
God. Luke 16:15

BERRINTON 7 months 3 days ago

We are created to have a relationship with God. God has come to give us a selfless
pleasure which is "Himself" but we would rather add some 'childish' toys to God (i.e
additions that God never intended) in order to demonstrate the fact that God is not enough
for our lonely hearts. It happened in the wilderness, God provided the Israelites with
Manna but they wanted meat and he ended up sending a blight among them. Its pretty sad the
truth is that God is not enough for most of us. We want God..

BERRINTON 7 months 3 days ago

..but we are not satisfied with God. We want to be under the protective wing of the cross
but we are not ready to submit to the cross by giving up the Lordship of our lives and let
Jesus be Lord. For the hungry soul, God is enough. We need not aliens. We need not
extraterrestrials for God's fulness is enough to satisfy our hungry hearts. David longed
for God in a dry and thirsty land where no water is. He didn't long for aliens or
extraterrestrials. But a morose and carnal generation wants..

BERRINTON 7 months 3 days ago

..nothing to do with God. They want aliens and extraterrestrial companions. He that has
found God has found everything which is why the man seeking pearls sold "all" that he had
to buy the pearl he discovered. The disciples forsook "all" to find Jesus. Jesus is all in
all. Jesus is beyond Mars, Jupiter, the Milky way galaxy and the entire universe and He is
present right now. Forget about aliens, grays and et phenomena. Seek Jesus for Jesus is
the lost treasure that we must find in order...

BERRINTON 7 months 3 days ago

..to be saved.

BERRINTON 7 months 3 days ago

For et's aliens, grays etc are merely distractions designed to make you lose sight of the
pearl of precious price that you should be seeking. (Jesus)

BERRINTON 7 months 3 days ago

And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy
fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the
testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Rev19:10
John wanted to worship the angel but the angel rebuked Him saying worship God. In a
similar fashion, we must let God be our "sole" focus, not men, angels, et's , grays etc
(Acts 14:10-15)

DEN14 7 months 3 days ago

Yes we must let God be our sole focus and worship HIM and Him only. And we should never
worship anything else but HIM. We should never worship aliens if they should come here.

DEN14 7 months 3 days ago

I do not think man is alone in the universe though.

BERRINTON 7 months 3 days ago

@DEN14, The truths promoted by Christianity are not about what we "think". They are truths
that we "know" for sure. Debating about whether or not aliens exist is equivalent to
debating about which of the two political parties in the US is the better one. Such
debates are always inconclusive and they always drain the intellectual abilities of those
that choose to take part in them because both sides have their pros and cons and
therefore, there can never be a clear winner in such debates

BERRINTON 7 months 3 days ago

..while such debates might excite the mind and thrill the imagination, they always leave
those that choose to partake in them empty and unsure. The Bible didnt tell us anything
about grays because their existence is "not" essential to our salvation. The Bible did
tell us that the Holy Spirit is our helper and that He will be with us forever. That we
know for sure. No need of debating over that for a million years. It is sure and certain
and therefore, we must embrace it.

BERRINTON 7 months 3 days ago

so from an eternal perspective, what I think does not matter because it is only relative
to "my own" understanding. A democrat "thinks" that his party is the best based on "his"
experience, interests or his judgment but that doesnt stop the republican from equally
thinking that his own party his the best. Duality is the system of confusion that blurs
the mind from being conclusive. Truth is what is. What does not need to be debated what is
clear, evident and obvious.

BERRINTON 7 months 3 days ago

Aliens, ET's exist= Mere claims made by people
Aliens, ET's do not exist= Beliefs by people who have not seen or experienced them.
Truths of God= Conclusive, evident and sure. Not subject to debate.

DEN14 7 months 3 days ago

Exactly! Though no one has seen God except when Jesus walked the earth God does exist and
there is proof in His prophecies that have come true and are still coming true though
written thousands of years ago!


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Trainer367


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7 months 1 week ago

Also, my original question that was submitted was:

Is it also true that man should not be alone in the universe, too?

Not sure, why it was changed to above.
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