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Posted On: 2016-08-12 11:55:58
Scientists are now splicing genes. What would Bible say about this?
God tells us in His Word, the Bible that:
Genesis 6:4King James Version (KJV)
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Scientists are now splicing genes to make half human half animals.
What do you think about this?
And were there any in Bible times?
You don't need the Bible to realize that such scientists want to get away with criminal actions and that nobody was paid for life loss or injuries coming from the killer bees that were freed by mistake. The facts are that if an engeneer makes a bad building by mistake and such building will collapse then he goes to jail. This never happens for scientists. Does it?
Scientists have been experimenting with "GENE SPLICING" for decades. Some of those experiments were successful and produced interesting results.
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Splicing genes only for producing half human and half beast is foolishness. However is splicing genes is done in order to help people medically with their diseases, then I don't see any wrong in it, just as any other surgery is done to save a life has God's approval. In the Bible in the old testament God cursed King Nebuchadnezzar, turning him into a beast.
Den14, I do not agree with your opinion. Let me explain. Let's pretend that you have a gene which cause an extra finger to grow on your hand, and let's say that that extra finger interferes with your daily functions, whether making it difficult and almost impossible to tie your shoes, get dressed, or even to open a door or hold anything. Also it is draws negative attention and is unsightly to others. This is an inherited gene, but docs can cure this through splicing. This is right to do so.
All life is sacred. I just watched the Frankenstein Movie the new one were the monster had two hearts and two lungs...but no soul. There in lies the problem, God knows all and has the power to create because he knows what will go wrong with HIS creation. Our bodies are but a gift from him, and must go back to him when we die, so all transplants from dead people is an ABOMINATION in the eyes of God. Maybe that's why Jesus cried "they do not know what they do." And do we ever? We mess with the building blocks of life, but what if we destroy Gods creation, who do we ask to reset it?
Jade, harvesting an organ which a person voluntarily gives in order to save another person's life is NEVER ABOMINATION, but it is ALWAYS RIGHTEOUSNESS. The person dying no longer has any need for their organs, so giving it to another person whom needs it is a gift of life, just as donating blood for others in need of it is LIFE, and NO ABOMINATION. Think of all of the people alive today because of receiving an organ transplant and receiving blood in operations. Praise God for these lives.
Modern medicine is the result of ever increasing advancements as man better understands the human body & proper maintenance. Certain diet & exercise regimes improve quality of life, while others detract from it. These are within the premature of 'free-will' decisions God allows man to exercise. The is no universal absolute right or wrong in these decisions. The only violation of medical choices is those that violate a person's 'free-will'. Ultimately, regardless of doctor or patient choices -
ONLY God decides life or death. Even when man's natural perception of scientific marvel is not godly, God is still the final authority. Many of HIS decisions do not always agree with man's, but God is God & man is mere man.
Modern medicine is now what it appears to be in this time we live in. By selling is drugs that never cure us, that we can never stop and cutting out parts of our bodies these drug companies, hospitals, and doctors are getting rich at our expense. They don't want you to get well so they can keep taking your money. Modern medicine would be a joke if it were not so heart breaking. God's natural way is the best. All this modern medicine has only been around for a short time, but
man has used Go's healing herbs for thousands of years with very little side effects and being completely healed. The proper rest exercise, food. pure water, sun, air, herbs, etc. are God's way to good and lasting health. If you want to find out more about this way to good health and cures go to wwwNaturalNews.com
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I think as scripture declares 'satan' is the 'god' of this earthly physical realm, which since Adam surrendered his dominion over it, has been under a curse. Therefore whatever is going on in THIS world, it is under the devil's evil influence. The only hope & shelter from the universal curse is a right relationship with God in Christ having become truly born again. Divorce, abortion, murder, gene-splicing - even space exploration, are all influenced by the forces of wickedness & darkness & a universal philosophy of 'secular humanism' that professes that mankind can resolve his own problems & heal the planet, conquer space, & contact 'alien' life-forms -thought to be highly advanced & of greater intelligence than humanity - ALL without any belief in TRUE GOD. While ignoring the TRUTH, they believe absurd LIES - trans-gender surgery to mutate what God has otherwise created, etc.. Good is evil;lies are truth - to fallen man APART from CHrist.
Since God's Word declares the devil's future (cast into the Lake of Fire), he is hard-pressed to prove God wrong. From the Garden since, his ploy is always to get man to question God's Word. He thinks if he can persuade enough people to deny the infallibility of God's Word, he will beat God & NOT be destined to the end that scripture indicates. Secular-humanism wants to remove every visible manifestation of God's existence because they do not believe an end is coming but by physical resolutions
man can prevent the scriptural predictions, They use environmental issues, global warming, species extinctions, melting polar ice-caps as monumental catastrophes to imply WE must trust THEM to pass restrictions on companies 'raping' mother earth. Of course, in the mean-time, millions of jobs are lost & the social welfare programs become increasingly bloated, BECAUSE THEY want to control everything & everybody, without realizing that such a plan is exactly what the Bible prophesied thousands
of years ago, but THEY continue to deny it & have becomes part of the devil's brigade -the blind leading the blind. But we wrestle NOT against flesh & blood. Direct your resistance at the spiritual realm where Christ has delivered US from the strangle-hold of deception - the TRUTH has set us free! Lies are mere facades, the only substance to them is what you allow. Jesus gave HIS PEACE that 'passes understanding'. In other words, it allows the born again believer to rise above this mere temporal
realm & acknowledge things as they truly are. Place absolute trust in God ALONE, NOT politics, science, mathematics, philosophy, or any man made religion. TRUST HIM, not the masquerade that the devil wants humanity to accept as 'correct' & 'natural'. If it takes man to implement any 'change', that strong evidence that his 'change' is NOT NATURAL.
This is indeed Satan's world right now and he has entered into the vast majority of the people and they are following him and not God. that is why all these disasters are coming on us now we are indeed cursed. Thank God that there a few people that are still followers of the Great God of Heaven!!!
One verse in the Bible at the time of the tower at Babble God said nothing is impossible for man to do evil. Yes there were giants the dinosaurs tell us that and the walls of Jerico were built thick to keep out giants. Goliath was a giant.
What about all the pro-basketball players? A few generation ago 6' was considered tall & 55 years was the average life span. There have always been giants. THe fact that they are a minority among humanity is what makes them 'giant'. If you believe Jonah was swallowed by a 'great fish' large enough to provide him the ability to survive 3 days in its bowels, then you have to believe in physical GIANTS. Peace!
Explain more about giants in the Bible?
Giants: Spiritually, they mean those lofty ideas, people and strongholds that the children of men worship and put before God. Notice what came after There were giants in the earth in those days "and also after that", meaning the giants were different from the mighty men of old that resulted from the union of the sons of God and the daughters of men.
Son's of God= The children/followers/fruits/products of God. The Bible refers to the children of God as Sons. (Gal 3:26)
Daughters of men= The children/fruits of men. The children of God bear his spiritual image and are therefore male. The daughters of men symbolize the product of all that is not God. i.e all that is of babylon the whorish woman. i.e all that is made in the image of the whore.
The Bible tells us not to be unequally yoked with the world. The union btw the children of God and the daughters of men produces a corrupted and watered down version of godliness. This is witnessed ...
one is in a church or in an amusement park. "A whole new generation of christians has come up believing that it is possible to accept christ without forsaking the world" A.Z TOZER.
The product (child) begotten of the sons of god and the daughters of men is the mighty men and the giants i.the lofty delusions/people that we worship today (both in the so called churches and in the world) at the expense of truth. They are those lofty ideas/individuals that we worship, aspire to be and..
put before God. They are the generators of idolatry and sin.
2. Were they here before or after Adam and Eve?
They couldnt have been before Adam and Eve because they happened after the fall of Adam and Eve.
Were dinosaurs here on earth too?
From a christian point of view Very insignificant question. Jesus tells us that the Flesh profits nothing. There is no point debating about whether dinosaurs existed or didn't exist..
...because their existence or non existence is not essential to our salvation. How does the existence of a dinosaur affect our salvation? Christ exists and is standing at the door of those hearts that need repentance. That's all that matters. We mustnt live in a past that we are not sure of. We must live only in the present and the present reality is an opportunity to find Jesus.
"There is no point debating about whether dinosaurs existed or
didn't exist...because their existence or non existence is not essential to our salvation."
I disagree. I know a person who was an atheist. He is a scientist who was a professor of evolutionary biology. To shorten a long story, his research led him to finding all kinds of flaws in evolutionary theory and this in turn led him to *test* if a universal flood could be possible. Later he accepted the universal flood in Genesis as fact
Berrinton & RighteousD - Both your points are well taken & actually confirm each other's seemingly variant views. Just as 2 witnesses to a sporting event - one from front-row seats on the North end of the stadium - the other high in the 'nose-bleed' section on the south side of the SAME ball Park see the SAME action, but from different angles; you're both RIGHT! The miracles Jesus performed were to display in the natural realm things supernatural. Science (TRUE SCIENCE) examines factual
physical evidence presented in this natural realm. Many have converted to Christ when certain FACTS don't add up unless there is indeed a supernatural explanation. Wheter 'giants' referred to physical attributes or figuratively speaking of spiritual, the Word of God is a 'double-edged sword' & must be prayerfully considered by much more than a superficial rendering. Peace!
But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 2 Tim 2:16
@RighteousDestiny I was very specific "From a christian point" of view Very insignificant question." The main theme of Christianity is the salvation of the soul by Jesus Christ the Savior. Knowledge of the existence or non existence of dinosaurs cannot save the soul. In fact, there is no way that we can be 100% certain that dinosaurs existed or didnt exist. We can only speculate.
You gave an example of your atheist friend who according to you, converted due to what you call flaws in evolutionary theory. Well several "professing" Christian scientists embrace the theory of God and also embrace evolution because they believe that the evolution theory best explains the creation of the universe. So there are always 2 sides of every story. Some (like Darwin) see evolution in terms of form = ape-monkey. Some see evolution in terms of consciousness...
i.e the evolution of intelligence i.e the evolution of the intelligence of man from a 'primitive' mind state (i.e ignorance of science and the arts) to a state of mastering science, esoteric knowledge, technology and the elements. You also wrote "Later he "accepted" the universal flood in Genesis as fact. Many like the person you know have also run countless researches and have come to the conclusion that the evolution theory is perfect. The tests and researches of men are fallible.
God is to complex to be proved by test tubes lab coats, and scientific equipment. Dont get me wrong, God can use test tubes and scientific tests to turn the mind of the unbelieving to His Son but we musnt bank on them to reveal truth. We mustnt look at the dim shadow of the sun on the body of water but we must look above to the blazing and blinding Sun, Jesus Christ the source of all truth for inspiration. Every knowledge that doesn't turn us to God but makes us look to experiments...
...and theories as truth is a fake which is why I wrote "From a christian point" of view Very insignificant question." We cant know for sure whether Dinosaurs existed or didnt exist. But here's what we can know for sure: That Jesus died for our sins. That Jesus is ever present and that He is supposed to be enthroned in our hearts eternally.
MJ I agree. You are well aware that I do not condemn science. I often integrate science into many of my analogies. But my point was "There is no way we can know for certain whether dinasaurs existed or didnt exist. We can only speculate. So no point debating endlessly about speculation. No scientist on earth is older than 120 years old. So how can they know for sure if dinosaurs existed based? How sure are they that their bone discoveries belonged to dinosaurs? They can only theorize..
and come to conclusions based on their theories and they may still be wrong. The system of the devil works by controlling both sides of the debate. So its always wise to avoid unnecessary debates. De bates are the baits that the devil uses to keep us confused. When we choose intellectual debates over gospel truth, We go on and on arguing endlessly with what we have been indoctrinated without every knowing the things we really need to know.
The knowledge of this world thrills and excites for a while but at the end of the day, it offers no enlightenment or salvation to the soul but the Gospel is settled forever. It doesn't necessarily excite and it is always rigid and uncompromising but it saves and enlightens the soul.
Correction I meant "So how can
they know for sure if dinosaurs existed a million years ago? and not So how can
they know for sure if dinosaurs existed based?