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Posted On: 2016-07-02 12:37:40
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Creation: which came first? the chicken or the egg?

Chickens come from eggs, so where do eggs come from? No, not the grocery store. The egg comes from another chicken. So where did the chicken come from? Another egg you say? So if this is an endless loop, chicken from egg from chicken from egg from chicken from egg, then what is the beginning? Could it be that God created the male chicken first, and then put a deep sleep upon him, took out one of his ribs and made a female chicken; and then the two chickens got real busy and did the wild thing, and then the female chicken laid an egg? Perhaps. What do you think?

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It is very simple. The chicken HAD to come first.

If the egg had come first it would have never hatched! Chicken eggs (like most bird eggs) need TWO things to hatch: 1) warmth (like provided by the hen), and 2) periodic turning of the egg (also provided by the hen). If the egg came first HOW did it keep warm enough to hatch? And if the egg came first WHAT periodically caused it to be turned so that it would correctly develop into a chick?
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I do believe that the chicken came first because God created all things to reproduce from seed to its own kind. So every living thing reproduces of the same kind. (not out of a little sludge lying on the ground)

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Dear Jerome,
When you are the OMNIPOTENT CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE you do not need a laboratory, or a workshop. You simply blow a bubble in space and you name all the things you want that bubble to contain. Namely, flora, fauna, rivers, seas, oceans, etc. This huge bubble spins at tremendous speeds and gets larger every second.
During the gestation period, all the things you envisaged during the planning stage, start taking form and life.
This huge bubble continues growing, until it becomes a planet. All the animals and fishes are male and female.
When the new planet is finished, you go on creating other planets, stars, galaxies and even other universes.
In conclusion, I would like to state that the chicken came first.
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Unless the egg magically materialized all by itself then It would have to be the chicken. The chicken is not the only creature that defies evolution by the way, and I would assume that this is the indirect topic.

I remember seeing a documentary about this called "Amazing Creatures that Defy Evolution", and I suggest people watch it. Also another good source for this sort of thing is from the old recording from Kent Hovind.
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Most enlightened Christian religions believe that evolution was created and used by God, just as an artist might make his own brushes or mix his own paint.
That being said, according to the theory of evolution and modern genetics, the egg that would result in the hatching of a chicken, came first.
This egg was the product of the mating of two near chicken-like birds, who supplied the gene that combined to form a chicken. The egg came first.
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ThomatOurOnlineRelig, The fabrication of evolution was imagined by the ignorance of unregenerate man. Life, both animal and plant life species, grows from a seed into a mature or full-grown adult. Life is created and it grows, it does not evolve, growing is not evolving. There is no evolving. The lie of evolution says that the specie, man, derived from a protozoa or amoebic cell in the water, then evolved into a fish, then into an ape, then into a man. Yet all of my ancestors were persons.
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I agree God made us and not we ourselves and we did not just evolve. The Bibles tells us so.
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Jerome and Den are you an exact copy of either of your parents, if not, why not? If God used the same method that He did with Adam and Eve, then all these thousands of generations later we should still be identical copies of what God has wrought, no matter how we got here. We would all be either Adam clones or Eve clones.
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ThomatOurOnlineReligiousStore, Genetically speaking, in a sense offspring are a clone or a copy of their ancestral parents. After making the protoplast he commanded his creation to "Be fruitful and multiply" That means, ....and multiply....and multiply....and multiply....and multiply....and fill the earth.
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@ThomatOurOnlineReligiousStore Science tells us that the ejaculate that comes from a male contains millions of sperms. These sperms are expressions of the male. It also lets us understand that each (fertile) female has thousands of eggs in their ovaries (the sperms have to fertilize the eggs in order for a new being be born) each sperm is a "unique" expression of the father and each egg is a "unique" expression of the mother so even though the child is not an "exact" copy of their parents...
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..it is a unique expression of both of them which is why the offspring always takes unique features from both parents and shares many genetic characteristics with them. All the sperms in the father are unique expressions of the father (the father also inherited many of those characteristics from his own ancestors) All the eggs in the female are unique expressions of herself. (which she also inherited from her ancestors) After sex, the sperm and egg 'commingle' and produce a new being with ..
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...characteristics inherited from both parents. So you cant separate the father from the son because the son was once in the father (as a sperm) and the father lives in the son (genetically) which explains why we are all sinners from birth. Adam our father lives "in" us. Everything that comes out of Adam is flawed and sinful. Since the fall of man, the seed of Adam the 1st man and our common ancestor has been passed down from generation to generation so we are all unique expressions...
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...of Adam.The "one" Adam and the "one" Eve multiplied (through sex) in order to produce the many us (the copies, the multiples) and that's why their sin runs through our veins.
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Sexual Fertilization is therefore a "selection" process by which one (sometimes more) of the several multiples of a male and female commingle to form an individual or individuals. Sex is the process by which a man multiplies himself (his ejaculate) into millions of beings. It is also the process of how a woman's multiples (eggs) find expression by meeting with her partners sperm. Sex= Let one become many. No sex= Let the one remain the same.
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1 year 9 months ago
It is good that we all agree that the egg came first.
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For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.2 Cor 5:1
Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.2 Pet 1:14
You are not your body. Your body is merely the vessel that you use to experience this reality. In the same way, the egg cant come 1st because the egg is merely an experience that is undergone by the experiencer...
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...therefore, the experiencer is the "only" person that exists. The experiences cannot be defined without an experiencer behind them. All living organisms are experiencers that go through different experiences. A 50 year old was once an embryo, a child, an adolescent, a teen before he became an adult but all the stages that he passed through to become 50 cannot permanently define him. For example he was once a child of 2 but at 50 he is "no more" that child. He is "now" a 50 year old and of..
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..course, if he lives to be more than 50 he wouldnt remain a 50 year old so the tags embryo, child, adolescent etc cannot (permanently) be defined as him. They can only be defined as experiences that he passes through as he grows up. When I have the experience of driving a Ferrari, it doesn't make me a Ferrari. In the same way, the fact that an experiencer chicken passes through the stage of being an egg doesnt make it an egg. The egg is merely an experience that it must pass through...
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..in order to hatch, become a chick and attain adulthood.
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God created the organism that "manifests" in this world as an egg, a chick and a chicken. The organism is the "only" thing that exists but we perceive it (in this world) as eggs, chicks and chickens. The organism is "one" being having many experiences.
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So the answer to the question is the egg and the chicken are merely experiences that the organism attached to the experience has to experience in order to manifest in this 3 dimensional world. The organism behind the experience is the only being that exists.
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We are all made by God but each of us is a little different as no one is an exact copy of his or her parents as are snowflakes!
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You are correct @den14. We are not "exact" copies of our parents but we are "unique" expressions of them which is why some siblings take different features from their parents i.e some take their mom's eyes while some take the shape of her nose and some her hair.
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This is very true Berrinton and we all thing a little differently too, while we agree on most things a few things we take differently. We should seriously and prayfully study God's Holy Word and find His truth and the truth will set us free!
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True den14. That is because of our "uniqueness". But despite the fact that we (humanity generally) think differently, we all have "one" thing in common: The sinful nature of the one source that we all come from i.e Adam (for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Rom 3:23) So in our sinful unrepentant state, we are all "unique" expressions of one person. It is the same in Christ. Christians are all unique expressions of Christ (1 cor 12:8-11). Though we are many, we are one body.
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Yes we all have inherited sin from Adam and Eve and we all are sinners and come short of His Glory, but thankfully He send Jesus to suffer and die on the cross for our sins and we have a chance to be saved by His sacrifice!!! How Great God is!!!
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Does God create every snowflake? Of course not, He has a process, in place, to handle that. Don't believe, for a moment the God is limited to what you believe of Him.
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God is the Creator of all things and things that we don't know. He created the universe and all that is in it. He is Awesome and there is none like Him! We are His children and the sheep of His pasture! Glory to God in the Highest!!
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God made us and not we ouselves. Read the 100th Psalm

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