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Posted On: 2016-05-29 16:03:44
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Can We Know if we are going to Heaven?

My Question is.... If Jesus paid for all our sins, and we accept that payment, how many would be left for us to pay for? Then, if we do not have any to pay for when we die... where would we spend Eternity?

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1 year 6 months ago

Yes, you can know if are going to Heaven based on whether you have helped People or hurt People.
And animals and Environment too. So I think it is a balance between how much Good you have done and how much Bad you have done. On that note, that is why NO Greedy Wall Street type will ever be admitted to Heaven, since they have done so much Harm to People and Planet, from War after War they have supported and support, to opposing something as essential as Universal healthcare for American people.
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1 year 6 months ago
Universal health care is NOT essential to anyone. If it were essential do you not think that Jesus would have addressed the issue at some time in his 33 years of life?

BTW, I am American and I do NOT want universal health care.
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1 year 6 months ago
Man you People are certified Nuts! After all there was NO idea of Universal healthcare during Jesus time. Universal healthcare is something that came about in 20th Century as a result of Modern medicine and health care being able to be cured. Every developed Nation has it because it is essential to the well being of a Nation. And what you the Nut Job wants is immaterial. What if you the Nut Job wants to jump off a bridge?
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1 year 6 months ago
When you have no argument, always attack the messenger.
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1 year 6 months ago
No argument! You idiot 100% of all Developed Nations have Government run Universal Socialized healthcare. Because it gives healthcare to all their People FREE for Taxes they/we pay, while cost 50% less than Wall Street based for profit healthcare that USA has as a result of which 10s of Millions of Americans do not have healthcare while healthcare is costing a deficit busting 18% of GDP. What pat of "100% of all Developed Nations " dont you get!
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1 year 6 months ago
Calling me an idiot tells me that you have NO valid argument. If you had a valid argument you would try to convince me, but since you don't have any convincing evidence the only thing you can do is to denigrate me. All that does is to CONFIRM that I am correct and you are WRONG.
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1 year 6 months ago
You are an "idiot" because you are against what 100% of all Developed Nations agree on. Based on Mountain of Facts. NOT because of my argument!
And you want to be convinced, EASY. Google or Anoox:

Why 100% of all developed Nations, that is all European Nations, Canada, Australia, Israel etc. have had Government run Universal Socialized Healthcare for Decades
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1 year 6 months ago
Since you have no facts that you want to present, I therefore believe you are blowing smoke up your butt. If you are so incompetent that you cannot support your arguments, there is no reason to believe you. Just reciting what someone else tells you to recite PROVES NOTHING. Therefore, until you can support you THEORIES, there is NO REASON to believe anything you say. Lenin once said something to the effect that if you repeat a LIE long enough that it becomes truth to the hearer.
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1 year 6 months ago
Moron, it is not "reciting what someone else", it is reciting 100% of all Developed Nations and 100% of all Conservative parties in all these Developed Nations agree with, based on Mountain of facts that they have gathered over last many Decades to prove that not-for-profit Government run Universal Socialized Healthcare is the only way to run Healthcare of a Country and not the for-profit Wall Street based Healthcare that exists in US.

What part of 100% do you Idiot Americans not get!
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You keep repeating the same thing OVER and OVER and OVER again WITHOUT a SHRED of evidence to back up what you are saying.

So, according to you if 100% of people agree that something is true then it must be true? Bullshit. My experience is that MOST people are WRONG MOST of the time. That is the MAJOR reason that there are stock market crashes.

That is the main reason why Warren Buffett is so rich, by doing the OPPOSITE of what everyone else is doing.
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1 year 6 months ago
Thank you for proving what Lunatics Wall Street Media has created!
For you freaking Moron: " if 100% of people agree that something is true", based on facts and Mountain of data, THEN of course it is True. So it is NOT "acording to me...", but it is according to "100% of people"!

For more Google or Anoox:

WHY 100% all Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, Australia, Israel, etc. are 100% for their Universal Socialized Healthcare
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1 year 6 months ago
Proves NOTHING as I have NEVER believed ANYTHING the media has said without proving it TRUE FIRST. Unfortunately, the media is WRONG MOST of the time even though they control near 100% of the news PROVING BY YOUR OWN WORDS THAT JUST BECAUSE 100% say something is true, does NOT MAKE IT TRUE!

Finally, I hope that when you are looking in the mirror and shouting "moron" that you are smart enough to know that you are calling yourself names.
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1 year 6 months ago
Again, it is not I that is calling you Moron, it is the entire Developed World that by the Policies that they support and champion, what you Republican call "Socialism" and oppose, that is calling you Lunatics or WORSE.

For more Google or Anoox:

WHY 100% all Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, Australia, Israel, etc. are 100% for their Universal Socialized Healthcare
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Apparently you CANNOT read either. I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN and I do NOT appreciate you calling me one.

Some day when you grow up and enter the REAL world MAYBE you will then see the error of your ways. Of course, that probably will not happen in my lifetime.
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1 year 8 months ago

If you want to go to heaven, that is fine with me. I would rather be with God, and according to Revelation God is going to be HERE on Earth.
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Yes, it is called Dog :)
That is why I have on my truck: "In Dog we Trust"
But seriously. God is going to be on Earth! How about all other planets with life?
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That is what Revelation says and I did not write Revelation.

At this point in time, we do not know if there is life on other planets, so I have no answer why God says He will be here and not there.
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Can We Know if we are going to Heaven?
Yes you can be sure, our assurance is in the Bible.
"These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life..." (1st John 5:13). God wants you to know that you have eternal life! John 5:39 says, "Search the scriptures, for in them ye think ye have eternal life, and they are they which testify of me."

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1 year 8 months ago
Well you cannot expect that you are going to Heaven just because "assurance is in the Bible", if you have done many Evils in this life. For example if you have supported War after War, as many in USA have, which Wars have resulted in Killing of 100s of 1000s of People, such as almost 1-Millin Iraqi's Killed due to US lead Wars on Iraq, then you cannot expect that you go into Heaven just because it is written in Bible.
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I have a feeling you are both right. Could it be that Heaven is a state of consciousness within? When we do our best to live a positive, loving, kind, and peaceful life, I think we enter a heavenly state of being. If we continue to engage in negative actions by hurting others and harming our self, I think we will remain in a state of unhappiness, which has the consequence of more pain, hardships, suffering, and ultimately self-destruction.
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1 year 10 months ago

Yes, if you Put People ahead of Money and Riches on Wall Street. Remember, what Jesus said:
"That Money is the root of all Evil"
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1 year 6 months ago
Yes, very true. To be exact Money itself is not bad, but putting Money over Peoples lives is.
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1 year 6 months ago
You misquoted Jesus. He said the LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Money is NOT evil and it is NOT the root of any evil.
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1 year 11 months ago

A lot of differing views on the subject, but as it is in a Christian forum, I would be interested in seeing the scriptural support for these ideas and the Bible verses specifically saying that heaven is the reward of the righteous.
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1 year 8 months ago
There is no scripture specifically saying heaven is the reward for being righteous.
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