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Posted On: 2014-06-07 03:25:51
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Why do so many SEO Strategy suck?

Now we have to confront the situation, we have to work out more to find the real truth. Do you think that you have done enough to get higher PR or you would be placed on 1st page of Google?
So what makes this calculation wrong?
Do you blame straightforward to Google for all this mess-up or something you have done in your SEO?

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4 years 7 months ago

So many SEO Strategy sucks because you do NOT see their effects instantly.
anyhow, things are all about cash .. money .. pay more to be more visible ..simple ... and really sucks !
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3 years 7 months ago
Just because your ad shows more, ie get's more impressions it guarantees absolutely nothing except that you will end up paying more.

It doesn't guarantee you leads, or sales. If your form is too long winded, or your landing page has poor copy, crappy images, takes a long time to load, or if your prices are not competitive, or you have hidden charges...you have another issue to confront. Paying MORE guarantees nothing except less money to spend fixing your website.
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3 years 7 months ago
A patient webmaster sets a budget and creates growth based along what they can afford. Throwing your wallet at the bull, won't turn it into a cash cow ;D
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3 years 7 months ago
philgregory, but how many Web masters can afford the Wall Street class money that it takes to to a SEO on Google? After for a typical good Keyword 10,000 companies want their listing on top of Google results. So simple Math will tell you that this is BAD BAD for Small businesses. That is few Small businesses can afford the Millions that it takes to get a good ranking on Google! No wonder they are Ooooogeling in Riches and flying their fleet of $100-Million private Jet over our Heads :)
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4 years 8 months ago

Look man there are only 15 places on the 1st page of Google search results, and most of these places are taken by Google owned affiliate companies or other Big Wall Street run companies that have special relationship with Google, which means they pay 10s of Millions of Dollars to Google for after all what is 10s of Millions of Dollars to a Wall Street connected company who on a drop of a hat can raise $100s of Millions of Dollars or even Billions of Dollars by selling Stocks via Wall Street, aka printing Money, while typical Small business such as mine, and I am sure all people here, to raise a relatively pathetic $100K we have to put our House up as collateral to get a loan from the bank. So my point is if you are a Small business and the Keyword you are interested is coveted by Google owned companies or Wall Street run companies, forget it, they will always take the top spots on Google results, and that is why "SEO Strategy suck".
That is why I really like this Anoox search engine since they are total opposite of Google as they are not-for-profit and their search results are controlled by US the members.
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4 years 8 months ago
This comment is opinion and not based on fact. Any company can compete for any keyword and phrase. It's not all about the relevancy of keywords, it's about providing the customer with the best overall experience. It also depends on how much effort you make. I know many companies who expect page 1 results without working on their sites in their own time and tweeting on the weekend etc. It's not going to fall into your lap, so STOP expecting something for nothing.
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4 years 8 months ago
So you really think Google will place the link to your Web site above Google owned Affiliate companies which Affiliate companies now run into 1000s?
Do you really think Google will place the link to your Web site above its Wall Street connected buddy companies who can pay it 10s of Millions of Dollars?

If you believe the answer to those question is Yes, go ahead and spend your Money, aka waste your Money, on SEOs who promise you Google 1st page placement. Cheerios lad.
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4 years 8 months ago
IMHO you both have an element of truth to what you are saying. Yes Google and WS can create and un-even playing field that is beyond the average companies budget. However, that does not excuse business owners from working hard and being consistant with the time and talent they have been given in order to get as close to the top as they possibly can. :)

There, now I feel better and I hope my HO has brought you a level of comfort too.

Wow! That does not read like it should.
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4 years 8 months ago
@London is Calling
Dude I am an SEO and Our agency doesn't lie to customers. we do a full audit of the site and help them make the most of their business based on budget. Sure a small one man band cannot really compete on a "whole store" level with big brands. However, they may well have a unique selling point that they can target far better than any big brand, such as "machinery spares" or "Local produce" This is their niche. So small businesses need to look at their inventory for ideas.
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4 years 8 months ago
the idea that a small company MUST compete with the big boys is a nonsense really. There is plenty of Local competition. Furthermore, Page one should not be your only objective. Yes, it helps, but it's a vanity metric. Concentrate on leads and sales.
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4 years 7 months ago
I did not say that:
" a small company MUST compete with the big boys..."
but that the Big Boys, aka Wall Street run companies, can compete against small company any time they want. But the FACTs are that:
1- Google is there 1st and fore most to serve its Wall Street masters
2- Google will certainly place the link to its affiliate companies, which are running into 1000s now, and its Wall Street connected companies ahead of any small business
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4 years 7 months ago
And to add insult to injury, they will get their PR firms, aka Wall Street run Media from that lying trash CNBC to Wall Street journal, etc. to put out one glorious article about Google after another, such as:
"Google is going to introduce the Self driving car..."
"Google guy brings democracy to Egypt..."
etc. Bull Sheeeeet to con us about the fact that Google can and does SCAM the main street on behalf of Wall Street at will. Mind you not always. But at will.
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4 years 7 months ago
Is this a thread about SEO or conspiracy theory?
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4 years 7 months ago
Well when fact is also "conspiracy theory" then it is just fact.
And so it is a fact that Wall Street backed companies take care off other Wall Street backed companies far ahead of any small business based companies. After all Google brass is flying in fleet of $100-Million Private Jets to their $50-Million Villas, so who do you think they are going to put ahead of their list, the CEO of other Wall Street companies flying in their $100-Million Private Jets or small business flying coach?
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4 years 7 months ago
And lets also add that which fleet of $100-Million Private Jets of Google and other Uber Luxury that Google brass is wolloing in we the Small business Schmucks, Schmucks in the Eye of the Wall Street looking down at us on Main Street, are paying for with the exorbitant and ever rising Advertising rates of Google. That is why I tell you ol chaps I like this anoox since it is a not-for-profit network for us small business on Main street.
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4 years 7 months ago
London Calling. Seriously? "take care off other Wall Street", should be "take care of"

I can see you are not the sort of person who is willing to discover what the niche really is, therefore this explains your results in terms of search results.

Basically google is a big company, but they do provide free tools for any business or individual who so wishes to make profit. It just depends on how hard you try, and how much you want it.
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4 years 7 months ago
philgregory, I respect what you are trying to do. But believe me brother, these Wall Street run Goliath like Google, are no friend of us small businesses. Google will act now that they are kind to small businesses, but in fact the 1st chance they will get is to cut your throat. And they will do that when they are sure little or no competition to them exists.
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4 years 7 months ago
Ok. My last word son this is that your success or failure is in your hands. It's possible to make money. Speculate to accumulate. Work hard and it can be done. My own Website is not big and has a tiny budget , but I have been top of google in my niche for 14 years..give or take a couple of drops.
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4 years 7 months ago
Ok, your reply fully reveals why you and people like you are such Google trolls.
1st, you think "your success or failure is in your hands"? Really! What if a Wall Street run company brought public by same Bankers behind Google has $1-Billion in funding and wants the top of the pages that you are so happy you have now?
Do you think Google will not drop you like a load of crap to the bottom of the shoot and not load its Wall Street brother to the top of that page?
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4 years 7 months ago
That is why I tell you we need to promote this Anoox not-for-profit search engine and similar such search engines where how much Money and connections you have does not matter, but how much People like your site matters.

Bottom line, Power corrupts and absolute Power absolutely corrupts.
So the more we can free ourselves from Google's near total control of search the better for all of us little people on the Main Street.
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4 years 7 months ago
Deluded. :)
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4 years 7 months ago
Truths hidden in both positions. The true seeker of wisdom finds them out.
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4 years 8 months ago

Great question, I often asked myself and unable to draw a conclusion. Surely Google take the advantage and deprives us from getting the profit what we should have but you cannot ignore the SEO part. Maybe you need to make yourself more efficient and find out the drawbacks you have..Have a great day....
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4 years 8 months ago

I see this question every day. It's not Google, It's YOU. Our attitude is one of " I made a site, it deserves to be number 1." Or "I Like the look and feel of my site, why doesn't it rank better?"

The simple truth, to these questions is this. 1)Youre site doesn't deserve to rank well unless it is significantly better than the competition, not in YOUR eyes, but in the eyes of your audience.

So, if you pay a few hundred dollars to some cheap seo company, or a spotty teenager coding from his bedroom, chances are you wont rank. WHY???

Because those people just see you as a job, they do not care about YOU or your website, not really, not like YOU do.

I have helped get many, many sites to number 1 in google. My own site beats Wikipedia for a few search terms. I did it with GRAFT!! that's hard work, to you. You have to study every page, every sentence, every image...join every social, write blogs, papers etc. Biggest tip....KEEEP at it, Rome wasn't built i
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4 years 7 months ago
I couldn't agree more. If you want to really rank in Google, you need quality content and also to provide value to your audience. If people build a website expect to be making thousands of dollars the second week out, they may be sorely disappointed. Building a website is not easy, it is hard work and most people these days are looking for authority in a website, not just a bunch of affiliate links to buy things.
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4 years 8 months ago

SEO Strategies suck because Google strategy of driving Advertising costs UP & UP & UP so that they can make Billions of Dollars in Profit sucks. All I can say is thanks God for this Anoox not for profit search engine.
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4 years 8 months ago

it is all about how to fetch our money
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4 years 8 months ago

Wiseman has said it right.
The whole Google SEO Strategy sucks and is just a scam for us Small Businesses to Pay and to Pay and to Pay Google and the SEOs so that Google and their Wall Street buddies can role in lap of Luxury at the expense of us the little People.
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LOL hehehehe, :D I say it is a little of both. Google and I work together to make it so I have a low PR and still beat my head against the wall in an attempt to increase my PR without spending a dime in the process. :D Of course that could just be me. ;)
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4 years 8 months ago
fake it until you make it............
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4 years 8 months ago
Sad but all to true. :)
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4 years 8 months ago

everything is just about money trap....!! no wonder.
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4 years 8 months ago

Because we have to pay More & More Money to Google so that their Top brass can buy another $100-Million Private Jet and another $200-Million Villa. So just shut up and Pay the piper, cause Wall Street rich ala Google need to get richer. Yahoooooo :)
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4 years 8 months ago
Yes, bend over and take it in the Ass from Google & Wall Street bosses who need not just 1 $100-Million Private Jet per Google boss, but a fleet of $100-Million Private Jets. Here:

http://tommytoy.typepad.com/tommy-toy-pbt-consultin/2014/01/check-out-googles-new-82-million-corporate-jet-facility.html

So payup Boys. Google needs all your Money for living it up as Kings.
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4 years 7 months ago
We have to work hard to stay updated with all changes. It is also very importent to have a high profile on Social Media. Google means a lot, but the most important thing is a high level of quality traffic - you can get a lot of that from Social Media.
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